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  • urquattro-island
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Mar 2006
    • 1915
    • Home: Norway Current: Iceland

    #1

    bad bad brakes

    I need better brakes, have original s4 . But I need something better thats a fact of life.

    Do I need to change to s6 front susp, or is there something that will fit on these old front "forks"

    been locking thruu elsa here at work to compare brakes on audi and i am getting square eyes
    japanischer industriabfall nein danke!!
    www.rackeltrim.se Icelandic Division
  • merlin's S4
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2005
    • 1539
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I take it you've got the ufo front brakes? If so you're going to need something custom. Corey (on S2forum) is making me a conversion with Porsche GT3 calipers and 332mm discs from an AMG with custom brackets and brake lines! You can also use the 996 calipers which are more readilly available but you'll still need custom brackets. Talk to Corey about your options! If you're lucky and have the G60 front calipers you can do the same conversion as the S2 guys do with Porsche 996 calipers, A8 discs and RS2 brackets.
    '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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    • caterpillar
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Jun 2004
      • 2480

      #3
      http://www.rolleslitz.se/ http://movit.de/rahmen/mercedes.htm some mercedes parts will fit,you will have to open the senter i bit

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        Originally posted by merlin's S4
        I take it you've got the ufo front brakes? If so you're going to need something custom. Corey (on S2forum) is making me a conversion with Porsche GT3 calipers and 332mm discs from an AMG with custom brackets and brake lines! You can also use the 996 calipers which are more readilly available but you'll still need custom brackets. Talk to Corey about your options! If you're lucky and have the G60 front calipers you can do the same conversion as the S2 guys do with Porsche 996 calipers, A8 discs and RS2 brackets.
        AFAIK - the UFO equipped S4 can be retrofitted with the later 'big lucas twinpots' (or BLTs as I call them). These are heavy big calipers and work with a 314x30mm disc. To the best of my knowledge that all bolts straight up to the UrS4's that left the factory with the hilarious UFO brakes.

        I have a set of dismantled BLT calipers in the garage you can have for the cost of shipment and some beer if anyone likes. I had all great intentions of cleaning them up and renewing seals but I never bothered. All in tact with whatever carriers came of the UrS6 that I got these from.


        Paul
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        • mcandmar
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Apr 2004
          • 5118
          • Country: Ireland

          #5
          There shocking arent they

          Some usefull info here on the subject
          http://www.s-cars.org/postnuke/modul...rticle&sid=152

          Mark.

          Originally posted by urquattro-island
          I need better brakes, have original s4 . But I need something better thats a fact of life.

          Do I need to change to s6 front susp, or is there something that will fit on these old front "forks"

          been locking thruu elsa here at work to compare brakes on audi and i am getting square eyes
          91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
          93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
          94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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          • Corey
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 2793
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by S2central.net
            AFAIK - the UFO equipped S4 can be retrofitted with the later 'big lucas twinpots' (or BLTs as I call them). These are heavy big calipers and work with a 314x30mm disc. To the best of my knowledge that all bolts straight up to the UrS4's that left the factory with the hilarious UFO brakes.
            Not a straight swap, sorry Paul, you require the HP2 strutr also as the hub is different on the UFO's and does not fit the standard Audi style disc.
            Corey
            01636 822288

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              Bummer - I always thought they were bolt on...
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • urquattro-island
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Mar 2006
                • 1915
                • Home: Norway Current: Iceland

                #8
                thanks

                for the input, maybe I should just go for newer s6 front susp and make brakes from there.. ufo sucks
                japanischer industriabfall nein danke!!
                www.rackeltrim.se Icelandic Division

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                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #9
                  Thats the best option, S6 struts and you should be free to fit any monoblock you want. I couldnt find struts so i just rebuilt the brakes with new disks and pads, such a waste of time, dont waste your money on the UFOs

                  Originally posted by urquattro-island
                  for the input, maybe I should just go for newer s6 front susp and make brakes from there.. ufo sucks
                  91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                  93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                  94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                  • Corey
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2793
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mcandmar
                    Thats the best option, S6 struts and you should be free to fit any monoblock you want. I couldnt find struts so i just rebuilt the brakes with new disks and pads, such a waste of time, dont waste your money on the UFOs
                    No need to fit the later struts, I can supply a mono upgrade to suit the UFO strut.
                    Corey
                    01636 822288

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                    • mcandmar
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #11
                      You can, how much?
                      91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                      93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                      94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                      • Corey
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 2793
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mcandmar
                        You can, how much?
                        To keep the cost down we use used calipers and you have 2 choices, 996 4 pot and 320x30mm discs or 996 GT3 4 pots and 332x32mm discs.

                        996/320 £796
                        996/332 £983

                        Both kits come with genuine equipment discs (not pattern parts), pads and bolts. Custom brackets that are hard anodised to protect them and custom teflon coated braided brake lines with stainless steel fittings on the end.

                        All prices quoted are plus delivery and any local taxes
                        Corey
                        01636 822288

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                        • mcandmar
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 5118
                          • Country: Ireland

                          #13
                          Can i be cheeky and ask for just the brackets?
                          91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                          93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                          94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                          • urquattro-island
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1915
                            • Home: Norway Current: Iceland

                            #14
                            this

                            sounds nice, but my cash is really low now, as you know I asked you if youn know anyone who needs turbos or a new cu for 3,0ltr a6 2003mod. I am trying to get rid off a whole lot of parts to fit new brakes on my car...

                            I really want these porsche brakes their

                            how mutch are these brackets or am i beeing stupid now
                            japanischer industriabfall nein danke!!
                            www.rackeltrim.se Icelandic Division

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                            • Corey
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2793
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Brackets are £175 plus shipping, never be afraid to ask the question, how will you know. I am happy either way, if people want to supply their own caliper's that's cool with me. I'll help where ever I can.
                              Corey
                              01636 822288

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