RS2 calipers are better than Monoblocs

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  • S-Express
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Nov 2006
    • 1133
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

    #1

    RS2 calipers are better than Monoblocs

    Its official!
    Full data here (some fascinating info) http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_monobloc.shtml

    But for those of you who can't be bothered to read the whole article (and other interesting brake related articles):

    There is a rub. Brake calipers, especially those attached to hard driven high performance vehicles, do not operate at ambient temperature. Caliper operating temperatures can and do often exceed 300 degrees F on high performance street vehicles. � at which point the Aluminum bridge of the monobloc has lost more than half of its strength while the steel bolts in a two piece unit are unfazed. In fact, steel is essentially unaffected until around 200 degrees F where it begins to gain in strength. Steel gains 25 to 32 percent in strength when it peaks at about 400 degrees F. We are also seeing designs for production like another old Girling design called the four piece caliper (early �70's � terrible flexing problems) returning where the bridges are made of steel and incorporated into the mounting bracket instead of Aluminum for just this reason. In this design the pistons are carried in two Aluminum bodies bolted on each side of the bridges. This type, with all four pieces in Aluminum but heavily ribbed for cooling was also the design of the first Porsche Turbo caliper (mid to late �70's).

    Now, who said monoblocs were better????
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  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #2

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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    • BRY
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Nov 2004
      • 3755
      • Home: United Nations Current: Vietnam

      #3
      Do monoblocks corrode and seize?
      Kingdoms are run by Kings, Dictatorships are run by Dictators.
      England must be a Country. :mischeif:

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      • S-Express
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Nov 2006
        • 1133
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

        #4
        Originally posted by BRY
        Do monoblocks corrode and seize?
        Neither do RS2's if looked after properly, just re-conned mine, reckon they'll be good for another 10 years at least......!
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        • s2driveruk
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12696
          • Country: England

          #5
          long and short of it...buy a stoptech because it's better. I suppose AP or Brembo will have their version living somewhere to paint a similar picture of their products. Have a walk along the pitlane at Le Mans or similar and count the two piece calipers versus monoblocks.....wont be many i can assure you.

          Oddly you dont see many cars running them (Stoptech)? Conclusion...unless you are a grand prix driver, you'd probably barely notice a) a difference in a blind test and b) you're more likely to run out of road because of talent than pure braking power

          My experience of the 996 mono with a ds2500 pad is tht the longer you run it and the hotter you get the brakes, the better they perform.

          Interesting read non the less, thanks
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          • Bruno
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Jul 2007
            • 58
            • Country: Norway

            #6
            I have monoblock calipers allover on my rs2.
            The oem calipers is not resistant aginst salty winters and the pads get stuck and so on

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            • DarrenM
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Aug 2007
              • 1227
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I had a STOPTECH BBK on my old M5, tbh they weren't all that and I had probs getting replacement pads from the States. Had a few moments with fade and nearly a biggie once trying to slow from silly speed.

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by Bruno
                I have monoblock calipers allover on my rs2.
                The oem calipers is not resistant aginst salty winters and the pads get stuck and so on
                What front monoblocks are you using? ( BTW still interested in the rear caliper mounts )

                I wanted to use 996 on the front but it seems they wont accept the larger width disk

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