Audi TD B3 brake upgrade problem! HELP

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  • Falcao
    S2Forum Buff
    • Jul 2009
    • 43
    • Country: Portugal

    #1

    Audi TD B3 brake upgrade problem! HELP

    Hi! Yesterday i tried the brake upgrade but no sucess! :sad:

    The Audi 80 is B3 from 1989 and uses single disc 256mm.

    Brakes upgrade:

    Corrado G60/ S2 calipers + audi coupe 2.2 20v quattro discs vented (276mm 4 studs).


    The problem is the disc crash into the "arm" (spindle carrier)

    Here you have some pics of the calipers and the arm










    I think i need to change the "arm"..

    Waiting for help!

    Kind regards,

    Mário
  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #2
    I remember something about CQ20v and S2 having larger front wheel bearings, i.e. different housing.

    Are you 100% sure Corrado and S2 are the same callipers?
    91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
    93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
    94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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    • spink
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4382
      • Country: England

      #3
      Its a common thing people getting G60 calipers and G60 corrado mixed up,calipers are single piston on corrados

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      • Skull
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Mar 2004
        • 3506
        • Country: Slovenia

        #4
        first of all VW never had girling 60 calipers.

        second, you need a disk with different ET (hat height).

        coupe 2.2 20v have different front suspension (B4-like, wider arches)
        Audi Quattro WR

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        • Falcao
          S2Forum Buff
          • Jul 2009
          • 43
          • Country: Portugal

          #5
          Hi!

          The calipers i have are Girling 60 sold as corrado G60.. But the calipers fit. The problem is the disc.

          I think the main problem is the disc offset..

          I cant find a 276mm with 46,2mm overall as my disk have..

          I think i need to change the spindle carrier with hub..

          Now what to change? only the spindle carrier? or i have to change more?

          I believe if it was a 80 tdi B4, it would be plug&play because the disc have 56,2mm overhall as the disc i bought from 20v.

          The suspension of the B4 Tdi is much diferent then mine? arms, arb etc etc

          Kind regards,

          And im greatfull to everyone who are helping me!

          Mário

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          • Skull
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Mar 2004
            • 3506
            • Country: Slovenia

            #6
            280 disks are ok too.

            get some online catalog, and search for the disks for an audi 90 B3 limousine with 20v engine.
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            • Skull
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Mar 2004
              • 3506
              • Country: Slovenia

              #7
              http://cgi.ebay.de/GELOCHTE-BREMSSCH...d=p3286.c0.m14

              hmm, looks like the 90 20v also had 51,5 offset...
              Audi Quattro WR

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              • john881000
                S2Forum Maniac
                • May 2004
                • 598
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Brakes

                Hi

                Just a thought ,check out part numbers fors the Audi 90 shock/bearing housing,and hub.....the Audi 90 had vent discs

                You wont get the B4 v6 dics to fit either i tried that to my B3 Audi 80s,they catch on the hub housing

                Check out parts
                hope this helps
                cheers
                john

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                • john881000
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • May 2004
                  • 598
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  hubs

                  Hio again

                  Just seen your pics
                  try v6 discs on hor hubs i thought you had the one piece shock/hub assemly as on the early B3 Audi 80

                  cheers
                  john

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                  • Skull
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 3506
                    • Country: Slovenia

                    #10
                    damn

                    the audi 90 b3 20v have the same brakes, could it be that it had different wheel bearing housings just because of that?
                    Last edited by Skull; 14 August 2009, 20:52.
                    Audi Quattro WR

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                    • Falcao
                      S2Forum Buff
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 43
                      • Country: Portugal

                      #11
                      Anyone can tell me if the instead of B3 was B4 the brake upgrade would be plug&play?

                      If in B4 tdi works, i can change my spindle carrier to Tdi model.

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                      • Skull
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 3506
                        • Country: Slovenia

                        #12
                        Yes it would.
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                        • Falcao
                          S2Forum Buff
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 43
                          • Country: Portugal

                          #13
                          Hi everyone!!! Really thanks Skull!

                          The brakes are pluged! Really good improvement for an audi B3 TD! And i beleive to Tdi also!

                          The main diference between B3 and B4 is the Hub dimension! It is the main detail! The Tdi hub is bigger the B3 hub, and its why tdi hub fits the S2 disc!

                          I know it isn t a good upgrade for a S2 But here is my contribute for people with B3

                          Soon i post pics!

                          Thanks everyone
                          Cheers

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                          • Falcao
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 43
                            • Country: Portugal

                            #14
                            Here we have some pics from the new setup!




                            Shot at 2009-09-12





                            cheers

                            One more time thanks for the help!

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                            • john881000
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • May 2004
                              • 598
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Brake Upgrade

                              HI

                              I can vouch that the brake upgrade is fantastic
                              i did a 5 stud S2 conversion to my 94 B4 1.9 TDI Audi 80 Avant

                              The difference was increadable


                              cheers
                              john

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