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  • Fat Audi 80
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2004
    • 10547
    • Country: England

    #16
    Those Brakes are Rude!!!

    I suspect though that you are looking at the best part of a grand just for the parts though???

    Group buy anyone?

    Nice work mate. As a mech eng myself I can totally appreciate what has gone into those...

    Cheers.

    Steve.
    The Perfectionist
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    • sal_s2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1287
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Originally posted by Lee
      Hey Sal,

      You found that other rear upright yet??

      Lee
      Not yet, I'll have a final intense search this weekend

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      • Lee
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1512
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
        Those Brakes are Rude!!!

        I suspect though that you are looking at the best part of a grand just for the parts though???

        Group buy anyone?

        Nice work mate. As a mech eng myself I can totally appreciate what has gone into those...

        Cheers.

        Steve.
        Just the brake bells alone are over £600 for the pair: when you need to maintain a 20 micron tolerance on machining it starts costing a bit more. Nearly a grand just for a pair of the 6pot calipers, £200 for a pair of brackets, £200 for pads, £70 for the bobbin sets and about £550 for the pair of disks. I think your grand for parts is a bit of a low estimate...All in cost well in excess of £2600 for my setup although there are many alternative caliper and disk options that are more cost effective. You don't get the best for nothing!
        1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

        Designun Limited....
        Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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        • Lee
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1512
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          My 6pot 330mm floating disk setups start from around £1800+VAT. Very healthy discounts likely with a group buy!! Rear setup with Brembo handbrake calipers and AP 4 pots for about the same price. I will generate a small website soon to show the kits and their full contents. I guarantee you will not get anything like this from any UK aftermarket tuner for that price.
          1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

          Designun Limited....
          Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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          • Fat Audi 80
            Super Moderator
            • Jan 2004
            • 10547
            • Country: England

            #20
            Originally posted by Lee
            Just the brake bells alone are over £600 for the pair: when you need to maintain a 20 micron tolerance on machining it starts costing a bit more. Nearly a grand just for a pair of the 6pot calipers, £200 for a pair of brackets, £200 for pads, £70 for the bobbin sets and about £550 for the pair of disks. I think your grand for parts is a bit of a low estimate...All in cost well in excess of £2600 for my setup although there are many alternative caliper and disk options that are more cost effective. You don't get the best for nothing!
            Fooking hell!!

            I was waaay out!!

            Like they say, if you have to ask you can't afford it!!

            Keep up the good work fella.

            *starts looking for a cheaper brake upgrade...*
            The Perfectionist
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            Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.

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            • Lee
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1512
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Yes they cost a lot but they are extremely long lasting. These disks will outlast the RS4 ones by about 4 times! My mate has an almost identical setup on his RS4 and has done over 10,000 miles and about 6 trackdays without any sign of disk wear and the pads are down about 30% from new. So, probably quite cost effective in the long run plus the advantage of awesome, consistent performance without commpromise.
              1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

              Designun Limited....
              Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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              • Lee
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2003
                • 1512
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                He has close on 500bhp too so he absolutely canes his brakes and they take it in their stride.
                1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

                Designun Limited....
                Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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                • Greg_S
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 12430
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Good to see your back mate, was wondering where you had goto. Still not managed to get mine finished yet what with insurance to pay for
                  Greg

                  S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                  '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                  • Mark Halligan
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2001
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lee
                    I now have a good supplier for Brembo handbrake calipers so rear kits are the next thing Watch this space!

                    Lee
                    Looking forward to seeing your rear brake setup when youv'e got it ready Lee,
                    might well have a set off of you mate.

                    Mark.
                    Mark - Modded

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                    • Pete_RS2
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 800

                      #25
                      Sounds like your recent escepades haven't dampened your spending power too much Mark
                      Now RS2'less

                      '99 VW Passat VR5 Sport

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                      • Mark Halligan
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2001
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Pete_RS2
                        Sounds like your recent escepades haven't dampened your spending power too much Mark
                        LOL ,Yep, I should have added 'that is if I ever get it going fast enough to need brakes again'
                        Mark - Modded

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                        • S2-racer
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • May 2004
                          • 247
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          hmmmmm, how big a turbo couild i fit with brakes like those?? hee hee
                          '92 S2 - Bent now

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                          • Pete_RS2
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 800

                            #28
                            LOL. I just saw a big hybrid turbo collecting dust in Martyn F's garage today And some huge Mov'it brakes waiting to be fitted too.

                            BTW thanks again for your help with the HID's & cooling fan today Martyn
                            Now RS2'less

                            '99 VW Passat VR5 Sport

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                            • dan_b
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3670
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #29
                              @ Lee - crikey mate, I remember you telling me at the Bedford track day that you were planning something impressive, but I think you've really out done yourself there, nice work! What size wheels would you need to fit those behind?

                              If I may give some indication of what Lees brakes were already capable of: At Bedford, the main straight, Lee and I were both touching 135/140mph on the main straight, with a major braking zone in to a 2nd gear left-hander (it might have been 3rd gear, can't remember now it was a few months ago). Versus me with my 4-pot; 304x30 EBC Red setup, which is a major improvement over stock, Lee was braking an entire distance board later than me and still making the turn in easily. I think Lee was braking at what, 75, or was it 50 mate (I think you ran off when you tried to pull that one)?! I was braking at just after the 100 board...

                              If this is a "significant" upgrade I would love to go on a track and see what they can do! All power to your boots mate, good work. Not sure I've quite got that much spare cash to burn on the S2 now, but it was Lee who convinced me to go up to the Ferodo DS2500s over the EBC Reds and they are certainly a distinct improvement.
                              Good to see you around here again.
                              Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                              • Lee
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1512
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Hey Dan, how's it going? Yep big improvement I'm afraid. You are right, at Bedford from well over 130mph I was comfortably braking between the 75 and 50m board before that sharp bend even when holding down a calm conversation with Simon T from RS246. It was when I tried braking past the 50m board that I ran out of track...well, needed all of it to stop and no room for turn in. Great laugh that was and the Marshal in the shed looked upset. These new disks are much more fade resistant and the groves are helping prevent glazing. Overall braking power is increased with this new setup. A few people didn't believe me about the Ferodos when I was bleating about them a long time ago. Now that a few have tried they have realised they are worth the extra.

                                THose brakes still fit behind my OZ Vela 18" wheels. 19" would be more comfortable but now that lower profile "tuner" lead weights are available the 18s are fine.

                                Was doing some tests last week and a slight stab at the brake pedal over 155mph (on GPS) would lock up my 235/40 tyres!!! Mighty stopping power and dead stable even with the stock rear brakes. Watch this space for when they get done!! Then we will go for a similar attention to detail in the power upgrade stakes!! LOL.

                                Welcome back? Nice to be back! (Doug and Tom did about 2000 posts each in the few months I was away!)

                                Cheers mate,

                                Lee
                                1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

                                Designun Limited....
                                Aerospace, Space and Motorsport Design Consultancy and hardware supply.

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