Random rear brake Drag, S2 estate.

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  • Ian Simmonds
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2005
    • 2858
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Random rear brake Drag, S2 estate.

    On the S2 Before I put new pads and discs on it last weekend, it would randomly drag the off side rear caliper, getting hot some days and being fine on others. This afternoon, the near side was dragging with the new discs and pads, and getting warm, so when i got home I jacked it up, and its as free as a bird!!!

    I'll have a proper look tomorrow, but any thoughts?

    VBR
    Ian
    85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
    93 MTMS2 Avant
  • Monkeymagic
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2012
    • 3419
    • Country: England

    #2
    My guess as with most vag rear calipers the handbrake mech is getting lazy and calipers sticking on.

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    • TimE-J
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2009
      • 1292
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Is the handbrake mechanism through the caliper on the avant?

      First things I would check would be slider pins in the carrier, how well the piston moves in the caliper and the condition on the brake hose as they could be braking down inside causing fluid to be held under slight pressure.
      96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
      96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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      • andyg plym
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2006
        • 4646
        • Country: England

        #4
        i got a lovely set (if needed) of rear calipers going cheap

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        • Ian Simmonds
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2005
          • 2858
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Many thanks folk
          I had all the slider pins out, cleaning and regreasing them and fitting new boots, they're moving freely enough (I think), its weird the fault has swapped sides since stripping Down and servicing the brakes...
          85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
          93 MTMS2 Avant

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          • Sleeper_Avant
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Mar 2009
            • 2372
            • Country: England

            #6
            pads sticking in the carrier possibly?

            Rubber flexi hoses can perish letting fluid push caliper piston out but not let fluid back

            wheel bearing dragging under load?
            1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
            1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
            BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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            • Ian Simmonds
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2005
              • 2858
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Hmmm, pads sticking in the carriers, interesting... Do you lub them with copperslip or not... I didn't, i put them in dry?
              85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
              93 MTMS2 Avant

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              • TimE-J
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2009
                • 1292
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                I do tend to put a little bit of copper grease on the pads but I also make sure the carrier where the pads sit is wire brushed or even cleaned using a file to make sure there's no corrosion causing the pads to stick.
                96 S2 aby Coupe. Rebuild Project
                96 mk3 golf tdi daily.

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                • Sleeper_Avant
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2372
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  careful with a file, as not to take too much metal off then pads knock.

                  but make sure pad carriers are clean with wire brush or as Tim says with a file, little dab of copper slip or high temp grease

                  pad quality makes a diference also, non dealer pads mostly need the paint removed where they fit in the carriers, even a gentle "tap" into place will cause sticking
                  1993 URS4 Avant Emerald Green 350+bhp
                  1991 Ford Sierra Sapphire 4x4 in Magenta
                  BoooOOOSSSSSTTTT BANG BANG CHIRP CHIRP

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                  • Ian Simmonds
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2858
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Thanks folk, I'll revisit them this morning, the pads are dry and needed a bit of encouragement into place. The caliper was wire brushed, but i suspect this could be the issue... I'll report back...
                    85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                    93 MTMS2 Avant

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                    • andyg plym
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4646
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ian Simmonds
                      Hmmm, pads sticking in the carriers, interesting... Do you lub them with copperslip or not... I didn't, i put them in dry?
                      copper slip everytime mate

                      whilst you are there with the tin open put a small dab on the wheel bolts so you stand half a chance if you ever have to swap wheels at the side of the road!

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                      • Ian Simmonds
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2858
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andyg plym
                        copper slip everytime mate

                        whilst you are there with the tin open put a small dab on the wheel bolts so you stand half a chance if you ever have to swap wheels at the side of the road!
                        okay- doakes, yep, all I copper slipped was a fine smear on the pad to piston face and the wheel bolts. Greased the slider pins under the boots too... Not enough I suspect...
                        85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                        93 MTMS2 Avant

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                        • Ian Simmonds
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 2858
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Well, think I've got it, the car is rolling freely, but being a numpty i got carried away chasing a dodgey looking Mk2 Golf on the test drive and so all the brakes were red hot

                          Many thanks folk.
                          85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                          93 MTMS2 Avant

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sleeper_Avant
                            pad quality makes a diference also, non dealer pads mostly need the paint removed where they fit in the carriers, even a gentle "tap" into place will cause sticking


                            Most non OE pads I have fitted have required a quick file, and some cheapo pads that came in the back of a car required metal removal before they would fit.
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
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