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  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #16
    PNs for Big Reds/Blacks on NAmerican C4 UrS4/S6 struts

    Originally posted by Rusty
    What part numbers are the 928 calipers? Are they the 2 piece 993 items? There was very little chance of fitting my current 996 calipers under the Avus with a 4.5mm spacing. With a 3mm spacing, it will be very tight but the chances of massive brake temperatures while running those wheels are low...
    Remember that I am talking C4 not B3 or B4 and also North American C4 UrS4/S6 which got different wheel bearing carriers than either the Euro/ROW C4 UrS4/S6s that came with UFOs or the HP2s. With that as context, the PNs that work for us in North America are:

    RS2 BRACKETS
    8A0 615 125 A (034Motorsports or VAG Parts) (or Apikol clones)

    993tt Big Red Calipers:
    993-351-425-10 (left), 993-351-426-10 (right)

    Porsche 928 GTS front calipers
    Porsche P/N -928-351-423-03 L, 928-351-424-03 R

    Later A8 ROTORS (323x30, 5/112) (early D2 S8 rotors)
    4D0 615 301 A or J (A was superceded by J)

    Also:
    Bolts, long (caliper to bracket, x4)
    999.067.041.09

    Bolt, short (Strut to bracket, x4)
    N 100 880 03
    Bolt size is: M12x1.25x25mm

    Vibration dampers 44 mm (x4)
    965 351 096 00

    Vibration dampers 36 mm (x4)
    964 351 096 01

    Wear Sensors (x2)
    993.612.368.00

    Wear Sensor holders (x2)
    928.612.361.00

    Brake lines (x2)
    443 611 707 C (rubber OEM, M-F, 405 mm long)
    Or custom stainless steel
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Those calipers must be smaller than the 996 or at least a different cross section. Will see how they go with 3mm spacers to allow some 321s.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • gnutz2
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2006
        • 928
        • Country: England

        #18
        Bringing this thread back to life.

        I did a conversion to 314mm disc's with porsche monoblocks under 16inch avus wheels about 8 years ago, at the time I remember it being a very close fit but was told that this was normal. I've just removed the discs today and they measure 323 x 30mm and have cooling vents facing inwards.
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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #19
          Originally posted by gnutz2
          Bringing this thread back to life.

          I did a conversion to 314mm disc's with porsche monoblocks under 16inch avus wheels about 8 years ago, at the time I remember it being a very close fit but was told that this was normal. I've just removed the discs today and they measure 323 x 30mm
          OOps! Who is to blame for that?
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • gnutz2
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Aug 2006
            • 928
            • Country: England

            #20
            Originally posted by UrS4boy
            OOps! Who is to blame for that?

            I'm not sure really but I remember being told at the time that 314mm was the biggest you can go under avus 16's.
            The ONLY S2 Golf!
            http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
            10.42@138mph
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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            • Audicted
              S2Forum Addict
              • May 2004
              • 366
              • Home: Jamaica Current: United States

              #21
              I'm using the set up Dave referenced in post #16 above on a UrS6 with stock Avus wheels with zero fitment issues. (993tt calipers, D2 A8 rotors, RS2 carriers). Since 2005.

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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #22
                Originally posted by gnutz2
                I'm not sure really but I remember being told at the time that 314mm was the biggest you can go under avus 16's.
                They lied.
                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • _ShurikeN
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 733
                  • Country: Russian Federation

                  #23
                  A8(D2) 323 with RS2 calipers do fit under 16" Avus MkI.

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                  • gnutz2
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 928
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by _ShurikeN
                    A8(D2) 323 with RS2 calipers do fit under 16" Avus MkI.
                    If the rs2 brembo are a 2 peice bolted design then I wouldn't think there was enough room, the mono blocks only just fit with a couple of mm spare.
                    The ONLY S2 Golf!
                    http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
                    10.42@138mph
                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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