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  • Chasman
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jan 2004
    • 119
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Bedding in Big Reds

    I've heard all kinds of stories about how you can ruin new brakes by "glazing" the pads.

    Tom is fitting a set of Big Reds to my RS2 next week and I'd appreciate some guidance.
    7
    Using gently for first few hundred miles then building up pressure.
    14.29%
    1
    Perform successive stops increasing speed and pressure.
    85.71%
    6
    Perform several successive stops from high speed at high pressure.
    0.00%
    0
    Other.
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Cheers,
    Chasman
    1994 RS2 in RS Blue Pearlescent
  • dan_b
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Sep 2003
    • 3670
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #2
    Gently the first few times, just in case it's not all bolted down properly!
    In the info pack for the Ferodo pads, I think it tells you to do several runs of increasing speed, braking each time to a full stop. That's what I did anyway.

    The trouble with the "drive gently for 300miles" theory is that:
    a: - what happens if you need to make an emergency stop and they're not bedded in and don't perform properly?
    b: - you can drive 300miles without applying the brakes hardly at all if you're doing motorway driving, so how has that helped bed in the brakes?

    Brand new pads/discs definitely need a bedding in period to work properly. I don't understand the science, but I do know that you actually need to lay down a surface coating of the pad on the disc itself, and that the heating process actually helps cure the pad material.
    Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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    • dan_b
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      • Sep 2003
      • 3670
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

      #3
      ps - what pads/ fluid are you using?
      Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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      • dan_b
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        • Sep 2003
        • 3670
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        ps - what pads/ fluid are you using? I'd say it's probably also worth your while checking the brake system with a quick bleed after a few days - just incase there are some trapped air pockets that need displacing after having pumped the fluid around and got heat in the calipers etc.
        Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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        • Chasman
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Jan 2004
          • 119
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          The pads will be whatever comes as standard with a Big Red kit (I think they are Brembos with Porsched logos aren't they?) I've asked Tom to use a top spec fluid but I don't know what he's goning to use, I'll PM him.
          Cheers,
          Chasman
          1994 RS2 in RS Blue Pearlescent

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          • Lee
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1512
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            The pads in Chas's new kit are Textar (Porsche OEM). I am not sure of their recomended bedding in procedure. His new disks are nice though as they have been machined after the bells were attached to ensure the disks run true. The disks do not look pre-conditioned (cost plus option from some disk manufacturers).
            1995 S2 Avant with some upgrades

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            • Chasman
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Jan 2004
              • 119
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Thanks Lee - I wasn't ignoring you're advice to ask a Porsche dealer - I just don't know any I can ask! Presumably I tell them they are disks and calipers for a 993?
              Cheers,
              Chasman
              1994 RS2 in RS Blue Pearlescent

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              • Markus
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Aug 2003
                • 184
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                Most importantly, don't let it come to a complete halt after heavy braking unless it is absolutely necessary from a safety point of view. The pad material will melt onto the disk.
                Markus

                '94 Kristallsilber-metallic S2 Avant.

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                • dan_b
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3670
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #9
                  Yes, to follow up on Markus's post: when you do stop, don't stay stationary with your foot on the brake pedal as this will cause the pad to stick to the disk. You can see this on lots of cars, especially automatics, and always on your rear discs (from the handbrake).
                  Ex S2 owner, now running around in an A4 Avant quattro...

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                  • Corey
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2793
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    see here

                    Last edited by Corey; 12 March 2005, 16:56. Reason: That didn't work
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                    • Chasman
                      S2Forum Enthusiast
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 119
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Brilliant thanks.
                      Cheers,
                      Chasman
                      1994 RS2 in RS Blue Pearlescent

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