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  • WabTheKing
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2004
    • 2567
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    optimum disc sizes

    i have bought a full set of brembos off a boxster, i am making my own bells and running a separate mechincal handbrake caliper,

    opinions wanted on best disc sizes front and rear width and diameter

    cheers
    will
  • WabTheKing
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2004
    • 2567
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
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    • Crawford_S2
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Imho if you are making bells then use the same disc size as the boxter, thats what the calipers where designed for and porsche don't get it badly wrong most of the time.
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      • BRY
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        • Nov 2004
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        #4
        Which mechanical handbrake caliper are you going to use?
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        • WabTheKing
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          • May 2004
          • 2567
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          #5
          a guy is lending me a set to copy off and ultima GTR not sure what make they are will post pics when i get them,

          anybody lnow what size discs the boxster uses?

          cheers
          will

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          • The Spanish
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Nov 2003
            • 719

            #6
            Boxster or Boxster S?

            Boxster around 304 Front
            Bosxter S 318x28 Front

            Boxster rear no idea but 280-290 I think
            Boxster S 299x24 rear
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            • Lee
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1512
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              S2 has a different balance to a Porsche so the consideration for disk size means a different solution is ideal unless you start playing around with brake balance in other ways (playing with the pressures or pad selection).

              Handbrake off the Ultima are made by Brembo and are suitable for a maximum disk thickness of 28mm. I have a source for these calipers and they are not too expensive. The same caliper is used on various supercars including the Ferarri Modena 360. It is big but it is the best option caliper for a separate handbrake on the rear setup. Your brackets need to be quite large too to mount 2 calipers.
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              • WabTheKing
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                • May 2004
                • 2567
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                still looking at the bias valve option,
                could this be mounted in the pipe lines going to the rear just after the abs unit,
                or would the distance away from the caliper have to be the same
                still reading up about this - any experiance/advice welcome

                cheers
                will

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                • WabTheKing
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • May 2004
                  • 2567
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  mechanical hand brake

                  hi lee,

                  how much for a pair?

                  i am machining the brks to suit so no need to worry bout them just need prices for the caliper as it may be cheaper to buy than try and fabricate a set

                  cheers
                  will

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                  • 90quattrocoupe
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 771
                    • Country: United States

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WabTheKing
                    still looking at the bias valve option,
                    could this be mounted in the pipe lines going to the rear just after the abs unit,
                    or would the distance away from the caliper have to be the same
                    still reading up about this - any experiance/advice welcome

                    cheers
                    will
                    HI,
                    I don't know if the S2 is the same as the coupe, but the brake bias is right on the end of the master cylinder. You can replace it there with an adjustable one. Tilton makes a lever type, but I think the dial type from Wilwood is better.

                    Turn off you ABS, and go out to a large parking lot. Have someone else there to watch your tires. You adjust the rear bias until the rear brakes lock up before the fronts. Then you back it off. You want it so all the brakes lock up at the same time.

                    Greg
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                    • A1QSHIP
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 975
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      Rear Brake Bias

                      Just remember that fuel load has an effect on brake bias. Try your bias adjustments with both a full fuel load & then at about 1/4 tank level. I like the Wildwood bias valve better too. How about cockpit adjustable?
                      Chris
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                      • kwlw
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 1025
                        • Country: Lithuania

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TECH48
                        Just remember that fuel load has an effect on brake bias. Try your bias adjustments with both a full fuel load & then at about 1/4 tank level. I like the Wildwood bias valve better too. How about cockpit adjustable?
                        Chris
                        Cockpit adjustable brake balance is right way to crash on the race track. Unless you are professional rally or track driver.

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                        • WabTheKing
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                          • May 2004
                          • 2567
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 90quattrocoupe
                          HI,
                          I don't know if the S2 is the same as the coupe, but the brake bias is right on the end of the master cylinder. You can replace it there with an adjustable one. Tilton makes a lever type, but I think the dial type from Wilwood is better.

                          Turn off you ABS, and go out to a large parking lot. Have someone else there to watch your tires. You adjust the rear bias until the rear brakes lock up before the fronts. Then you back it off. You want it so all the brakes lock up at the same time.

                          Greg
                          mines not an s2, 90 CQ with 3B engine, so it will be the same, anyone want to post a picture with an arrow then i know exactly what im looking at

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                          • WabTheKing
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • May 2004
                            • 2567
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kwlw
                            Cockpit adjustable brake balance is right way to crash on the race track. Unless you are professional rally or track driver.

                            Sau
                            if it aint broke dont fix it! if its set, it can stay set,

                            could it be done on a rolling road? i took a waggon for an MOT, to test the braking capability they run two rollers under the wheels, get you to stand on the brakes and they measure how much torque is required to drive the rollers while you are braking- anyone know of anywhere that does this for 4wheels?

                            cheers
                            will

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                            • A1QSHIP
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 975
                              • Country: United States

                              #15
                              Yes... to a point. Remember that braking forces are also influenced by the friction coefficient between the tire & the road surface. As far as a cockipt adjustable brake bias goes, this will allow you to compensate for the foward/rear weight bias differentiation that will occur during on track racing conditions. As fuel is burned off the front end will become heavier compared to the rear of the vehicle. KWLW is correct, you better know what you are doing.
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