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  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #1

    Cruise Control Installed..

    Just finished fitting the cruise control system, Heres a little list of whats needed,

    Column Switches for lights and warning hazard. (With controls for CC)
    Servo Pump & Mounting bracket.
    Throttle linkage & vacuum diaphragm.
    Switches/Sensors for brake and clutch pedals. (with metal clips)
    Loom, wiring & vacuum.
    Cruise Control ECU.

    Everything is a part of the one loom comprised of one vacuum hose and one electrical loom. The loom connects to everything as follows,

    Under the bonnet you have the vacuum diaphragm and linkage mounted onto the intake manifold, the linkage arm then connects onto the throttle body. On my 7A the bracket sits on the top of the manifold at the back of the engine and has a long rod that connects onto the throttle body. On our S4(AAN) the unit sits just under the throttle body and the rod points up and connects onto it. Not sure of its position on 3B/ABY motors. Note the mounting bracket and rod length differ for each engine, the rest of the CC system is the same for each engine type.

    Also under the bonnet you have to mount the Vacuum pump. Coming out of the pump the vacuum line has a T piece, one end connects to the vacuum diaphragm and the other goes through the firewall on the passenger side behind the glove box. Wiring loom also connects to the servo pump and has to be routed through the firewall also.

    Next the wiring loom connects to the ECU unit under the dash. It is actually mounted on the back of the dashboard above the glove box. I.e. open the glove box and put your hand up and feel the back of the wood trim, its just there. The rest of the wiring loom then has to travel across to above the drivers feet with the vacuum loom.

    On the pedals you have two sensors, they are a vacuum release valve and an electrical switch to turn the CC off should you press the clutch or brake pedal. So both the wiring loom and vacuum loom plug into each one. The two holes for the sensors are there however you also need two round metal spring clips to mount them. They are the same mounting as the brake light switch by pushing into the metal spring clips. Just make sure you get these clips too when you source the parts or you will have no way to mount the sensors.

    Final part is a small blue plug with 4 wires on it which plugs into the cars wiring loom just beside the diagnostic connectors. The blue plug is on the car already so it’s easy to find.

    That’s it, plug and play I was surprised how well the system works, i covered a good 40miles last night at 80mph and it sat perfectly at that speed for the entire journey. Its a strange sensation having the car hold 80mph uphill on 2/3rds throttle when your not driving What i did find interesting was 40mph in a built up area, seems really really fast when your not in control

    Note if you are buying parts from a LHD drive car to fit into a RHD you need to modify the servo pump bracket and lengthen the wiring loom & vacuum hose.

    Mark.

    P.S. Will take a few pics later..
    91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
    93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
    94S2Bus - The Emerald Express
  • flossymeister
    S2Forum Addict
    • Aug 2005
    • 244
    • Home: Wales

    #2
    congrats on the fitting Mark!

    where'd you get all the bits from - VAGparts or breakers or summat?

    would be well interested in seeing some pics if you have some...

    cheers,

    Tim

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    • porkkis
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Aug 2003
      • 1994
      • Country: Finland

      #3
      I've done this also. I made the harness myself, just bought the connectors from audi.

      I recommend new pedal switches if some of you plan installing the system. They're the usual suspects when CC isn't working.
      -

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      • Jeffer
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jul 2003
        • 2057
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        Nice job! Indeed the pedal switches are *****. I've replaced 4 of em lately. The S2 and convertible.
        RS2 Black - stock 315 HP
        RS2 RS blau - stock 315 HP
        Sport Quattro - 1005 HP
        High Octane website

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        • mcandmar
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Apr 2004
          • 5118
          • Country: Ireland

          #5
          I got all the parts from a CQ20V being scrapped in the US, seems to have been fitted to a lot of cars over there.

          I was missing a small plastic bush for linkage which i got through vagparts, so you should be able to order them new. Cheap option would be to buy everything for a CQ, then order the mounting bracket and linkage rod for your engine from vagparts, cant see those parts being very expensive.

          @flossymeister: I'll take a few piccys of the parts in for you when its daylight again...
          91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
          93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
          94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #6
            Here is an update and a add up.

            if you dont find the blue plug that Mcandmar states you will probably end up connecting everything to everything and you are left with 4 wires.

            these wires held me for a week to try to find where everything goes.Since i finally managed today to make my cc work here are the answers:

            brown wire: earth----> connect it anywhere you have earth.It doesnt matter

            white/blue wire:vehicle speed signal----> this one goes on the blue plug of your dash on pin 18.Pin 18 is the 5th counting from your top left line as you see the plug when you unplugg it from your dash.If you open the plug on the top left side you will notice it reads a number 14(this is the number of the top left pin,so you count backwards towards the middle and you find the 18pin.It has the same colour cable(white/blue) but since there is a second wire from that plug that has the same colours,make sure you find the correct one)

            red/black wire:to brake light switch---> this one goes on the red/black wire that ends on the brake sensor of the brake pedal.

            blue/black wire:12V--->you can either give this one a permanent power 12v or an ignition key power on.Either way it doesnt matter.


            so there you have a second solution in case you dont find the blue plug(as it happened to me),OR in case your cc set that you buy from ebay does not include the blue plug!

            have fun!

            Vasilis

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              Theres a more complete description here -



              There will always be these 4 remaining wires on the CC loom. Simple to hook them up as described.

              Paul
              Paul Nugent
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              • mcandmar
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                You got it going then, good news
                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #9
                  yes finally!

                  as you told me it is a bit tricky to engage but once you get the hang of it,it becomes easy!!!

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                  • QuattroFever
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • May 2006
                    • 1360
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    how do the column switches for cc come? is it a whole new set of indicators and all, or just a new headlight arm? any pics of it. i've never seen cruise fitted.
                    Volcano ABY coupe

                    Ant

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                    • A80Avant
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10873
                      • Country: Greece

                      #11
                      the column switches coma as all along with the left side beam switch and side indicator switches.

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                      • mcandmar
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5118
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #12
                        Originally posted by A80Avant
                        Here is an update and a add up.

                        if you dont find the blue plug that Mcandmar states you will probably end up connecting everything to everything and you are left with 4 wires.

                        these wires held me for a week to try to find where everything goes.Since i finally managed today to make my cc work here are the answers:

                        brown wire: earth----> connect it anywhere you have earth.It doesnt matter

                        white/blue wire:vehicle speed signal----> this one goes on the blue plug of your dash on pin 18.Pin 18 is the 5th counting from your top left line as you see the plug when you unplugg it from your dash.If you open the plug on the top left side you will notice it reads a number 14(this is the number of the top left pin,so you count backwards towards the middle and you find the 18pin.It has the same colour cable(white/blue) but since there is a second wire from that plug that has the same colours,make sure you find the correct one)

                        red/black wire:to brake light switch---> this one goes on the red/black wire that ends on the brake sensor of the brake pedal.

                        blue/black wire:12V--->you can either give this one a permanent power 12v or an ignition key power on.Either way it doesnt matter.


                        so there you have a second solution in case you dont find the blue plug(as it happened to me),OR in case your cc set that you buy from ebay does not include the blue plug!

                        have fun!

                        Vasilis
                        Just revisiting this on my avant and its missing the blue plug too

                        Thanks for the post Vasilis, you just saved me a few hours trying to understand wiring diagrams

                        Mark.
                        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          So what is the secret then - where does the CC control module attach ?
                          Paul Nugent
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                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                          • mcandmar
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5118
                            • Country: Ireland

                            #14
                            Which part? ...taking pics as i go
                            91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                            93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                            94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              The main control module that allegedly attaches behind dashboard nr glovebox - I've seen drawings in manuals of where it supposedly lives but cannot find the mounting spud. A photo would be ace.
                              Paul Nugent
                              Webmaster http://S2central.net
                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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