Toad Alarm failing in the cold

[S2Coupe_Nic]

Has anyone else suffered from immobilizer problems in the cold?

Is around -5 at the moment and all was well, ran car for the afternoon but on leaving for home the car just wouldn't fire up. Turning over fine but interior alarm light was flashing green when normally it is a steady green.

Called AA, waited for patrol, patrol turns up, I say "She just turns over but doesnt start, watch", turn it over and she fires up first time. Sorry Mr AA man!

Any ideas? AA suggested I get the alarm serviced.

Thanks as always

Nic

[dest]

Flashing green indicates one of the sensors was triggered IIRC
It will only do it the first time its unlocked/started after its happened, so could of been that?
The amount of flashes indicates what was triggered

[S2Coupe_Nic]

It was a continuous very fast flashing

[dest]

Fast flashing green is usually arming I think.
I had 4 different Ai606's in previous cars, and never had a problem with cold weather, so cant really think what caused it.
Has it done it more than once?

[S2Coupe_Nic]

Last night the alarm just went off randomly for the first time ever.

What happened today:

Went up to car and pressed small green button to silence alarm then the black to unlock.
Put some stuff in the boot, got in and tried to start the car. Before I put the key in the ignition the light is a steady red until i turn the ignition on, it then turns to a constant green. I know that the immobilizer will turn itself on if u do not start the engine quickly but I was not that long. If that happens the light stays red even when I try and start. However this was not the case, it turned over but did not fire-up and the light flashed a fast and constant green. The door did lock as per normal.

Whilst in the car i locked and opened the car several times, using the fob but still no luck. I got out, opened doors and all sorts and locked/opened many times. The car was sitting for about 15 mins before the AA turned up and it fired up straight away after opening using the fob.

To be honest I do not know how to use all the settings the alarm has and only really use it to open and close plus the little green button to silence the alarm.

If anyone has a link or PDF manual for a Toad AI606 alarm system (system has to be at least 3 years old) I would love to know what else it is capable of.

Thanks all.

Nic

[dest]

They are damn good alarms, and have a fair few features

Installation manual:

http://www.hondanortheast.org.uk/manuals/ToadAI606/Ai606_Install.pdf

and a slightly different version here:

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:ek7JnFA7Ul4J:www.clubgtinorfolk.com/downloads/alarm-manuals/toad/ai606/TOAD%2520SECURITY.doc+toad+alarm+green+flashing+fast&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

[S2Coupe_Nic]

They are damn good alarms, and have a fair few features

Yea, the AA chap said they were one of the best. Thanks for the links. Hopefully it is just a one off thing.

[rob martin]

we stopped using them at work because of all the problems with them.
Take Over And Destroy is what we used to call them. i will have a look at work on monday to see if we have any old hand books for them after we binned them all.

[S2Coupe_Nic]

we stopped using them at work because of all the problems with them.
Take Over And Destroy is what we used to call them. i will have a look at work on monday to see if we have any old hand books for them after we binned them all.

[Knight Rider S4]

I have been having a problem with the clifford alarm on my Avant ...doing my head in ..have to switch it on and of quite a few times before works ...off next week and it is getting ripped out as I think it is the cause of a battery drain to

[rob martin]

a lot of problems we were having with the TOAD alarms and alarms in general was that when the vehicle vents were open on the dash board and the dial was in the cabin position, the ultrasonics were picking up the air flow coming in and setting the alarm off. there was never any adjustment on the older ones and the only way to cure it was to shut all the vents at night before setting the alarm. not what our customer wanted to do on 300 vans. in the end, we replaced them with Laserline and never had a problem.

[S2Coupe_Nic]

Weird you should say that Rod, 90% of the time I have heat on the windscreen melting the ice on the INSIDE of my car (now fixed rain leak) or my feet. But changed to cabin position yesterday for the first time in a while. Will change back, close vents and see what happens.

Thanks!

Nic

[S2Coupe_Nic]

sorry Rob not Rod, typo

[rob martin]

try it. the older TOAD alarms were very sensitive to a change in cabin pressure. if the car was armed and you got a sudden gush of air into the cabin from outside, the ultrasonics believed that the door had opened or there was a possible break in and triggered the alarm and then immobilised the system. try it for the next few nights with the dial back on the screen and see what happens.
don't bother having a service. all they do is check to see if the alarm triggers when the windows are down and they wave their hand past the sensors.
by the way, have you checked the main battery voltage (on the car) as they sometimes only need to be 1 volt under to start playing funny ******s with alarms etc?

[S2Coupe_Nic]

Havent checked battery but I think its fairly new and doubt it is to blame. Before the car refused to start I did go into the boot, maybe the sudden change in air pressure when closing the boot triggered the alarm. Ah well. Managed to set the PIN on the alarm system today. No idea why the system has a pin but heyho it now has one