fuel cut at full boost...? why?

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  • topsparky
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Oct 2005
    • 2014
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    also try the lambda sensor mate
    mine did this
    upsetting an m3
    1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
    2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
    3. H & R SPRINGS
    4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
    5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
    6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
    7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
    8. fmic fitted

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    • driftin jo
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Sep 2007
      • 2222
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Originally posted by topsparky
      also try the lambda sensor mate
      mine did this
      upsetting an m3
      It can't be the lambda sensor as it's signal is completely ignored by the ECU at WOT , in fact it's even ignored under moderate acceleration, it is only used for cruising and idle.

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      • rs200
        S2Forum Extremist
        • May 2009
        • 1398
        • Home: Croatia

        #18
        no ... the lambda probe is 100% OK..and it is not possible, because when lambda is off , car don't work like it have to be..

        maf or boost leak, but I'm 95% shure that is boost leak under the intercooler , because the flange is not OEM..

        we will find out... thanks guys for help..

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        • rs200
          S2Forum Extremist
          • May 2009
          • 1398
          • Home: Croatia

          #19
          again I had fuel cut problem , but now they came even at not WOT.
          normal crusing at 2500rpm and fuel cut. there is no fault codes or boost leek. they can easy produce 1bar. I also did boost leek test. and everithing is ok.
          what else can cause fuel cut?
          tnx
          Igor

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #20
            Check grounds to the ECU.
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            • rs200
              S2Forum Extremist
              • May 2009
              • 1398
              • Home: Croatia

              #21
              I alredy did.. it have it.
              it is very strange. there is no fault code or filure which I didn't have on that car in 7 years. it is cursed !
              let start from begining.
              before one week I changed valve cover and intake manifold ADU-3B , and put rs3 coils. car bun fantastic on idle. then went to drive.
              fuel cut , engine check , ISV, clean them .
              ride again, fuel cut - RPM sensor, I change them too. now there is no fault code , but fuel cut still exist.
              in middle time , I clean MAF, look for ECU ground, done boost leak test, look all fuses, everithing is fine, but this fuel cut ...
              my mind will blow !

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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #22
                You have bad grounds on valve cover / inlet manifold.

                Or you bought B-grade coils, not BERU or Bosch. They will give interference to RPM sensor and ECU will restart.

                Use only Bosch or Beru.
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                • rs200
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2009
                  • 1398
                  • Home: Croatia

                  #23
                  they all are OEM VW from golf 5 gti. and work grate on idle.. could they make problem on other revs?
                  they are OEM !

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                  • rs200
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • May 2009
                    • 1398
                    • Home: Croatia

                    #24
                    also I forget to said, that fuel cut is not all time, for exemple:
                    drive in 3. gear normaly.. and than WOT, full boost is reached, than fuel cut, emediatly after that I put in 4. gear and again WOT, full boost , and nothing , 5.gear WOT and nothing.. everithing is fine.
                    than everithin was fine 5 minutes later in normal drive fuel cut.. very strange . sometimes is good at WOT, sometimes not.

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                    • driftin jo
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2222
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rs200
                      also I forget to said, that fuel cut is not all time, for exemple:
                      drive in 3. gear normaly.. and than WOT, full boost is reached, than fuel cut, emediatly after that I put in 4. gear and again WOT, full boost , and nothing , 5.gear WOT and nothing.. everithing is fine.
                      than everithin was fine 5 minutes later in normal drive fuel cut.. very strange . sometimes is good at WOT, sometimes not.
                      MAF connector, when mine did this, it was the connector.
                      The fact that it does it intermittently suggests it is more likely an
                      electrical problem than a boost leek, especially as it does it
                      when not at WOT.

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                      • rs200
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2009
                        • 1398
                        • Home: Croatia

                        #26
                        of course.. it is electical problem.. but where? everithing seems ok, even MAF conector.

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                        • UrS4boy
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #27
                          Originally posted by rs200
                          of course.. it is electical problem.. but where? everithing seems ok, even MAF conector.
                          "Seems ok" could just mean that you haven't investigated it enough and are missing the problem. Check and clean the pins (both male and female). Check the pins for being pushed out of position. Clean the MAF wire. Substitute a known to be good MAF and re-test. Then and only then can you say it isn't the MAF. Even then, it could be a wire problem between the MAF and the ECU.

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                          • prj
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6308
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #28
                            You will throw codes for MAF connector.
                            I am pretty sure it is not fuel cut, but it's the ECU losing engine speed sensor signal or power, so it misses.

                            Most likely the ECU clicks as well during this.
                            Any "fuel cut" software wise will have a "Maximum boost pressure exceeded" code logged.

                            If there is no such code, it's not fuel cut. End of.
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                            • rs200
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • May 2009
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                              • Home: Croatia

                              #29
                              you are right Dmitri.. there is only engine speed sensor problem, and it is not fuel cut.
                              there is something else , MAF is perfect.
                              probobly it is the problem. where I have to look?

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                              • prj
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                                • Mar 2010
                                • 6308
                                • Country: Estonia

                                #30
                                If the problem started with the coils, and you made a plug and play loom, try to change to old coils temporarily by plugging the old cover back in.

                                If that fixes the problem, then the problem are the coils or the wiring to the coils.

                                If that does not fix the problem, then it can be bad grounds, bad trigger sensor or bad ecu.
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