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  • Bowlerwell
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2005
    • 1052
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    VSS - vehicle speed signal

    "vehicle speed signal - commonly found as white/blue cable"

    Can anyone tell me what voltage output correlates to what speed?
    I want to test my cruise control system.

    THanks.
    John Bowlerwell
    Electronic Engineer

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  • johne
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
    • 1406
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    It doesn't directly. The VSS signal is a set of pulses of constant +5volt amplitude, the greater your speed the more pulses per second.

    John

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    • rs200
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2009
      • 1398
      • Home: Croatia

      #3
      99% of problem on cruise control are 2 vacum swiches on clutch and brake pedal.. or vacum pump on throttle .. forget on VSS.

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      • Bowlerwell
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Sep 2005
        • 1052
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        Thanks John.
        So it's a PDM signal where frequency varies with speed, rather than DC voltage changing with frequency.

        Thanks!
        John Bowlerwell
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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          I did some brief tests on it in the past to get an idea of pulse frequency vs speed. Cannot remember any of it but posted results here somewhere. I'll help you look for it if you cannot find it.
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          • Bowlerwell
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2005
            • 1052
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            Thanks Paul.
            I'll search more.
            John Bowlerwell
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            • 4WheelDrifter
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Oct 2004
              • 5773
              • Country: Devon

              #7
              There's a magnetic/plastic ring on the output of the front diff, that runs by a reed switch in the transmission speed sensor (VSS). The reed switch is either open or closed, hence the 5V pulse. The pulse will be linear to wheel speed.
              It's a long time since I looked at the magnetic ring, so I can't say whether it's 1 pulse/rev or 2... A multimeter on the VSS while you turn the wheel should tell you.

              But as said above, you should check that the vacuum switches on the pedal are located properly, and are working first.
              SS

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              • Bowlerwell
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2005
                • 1052
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                The CC is not on the car, I want to test that it is fully working before I fit it.
                John Bowlerwell
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                • mcandmar
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 5118
                  • Country: Ireland

                  #9
                  In my experience the control stalk is the cause of most problems, but its easily disassembled to clean the contacts. Test each function with a multimeter to be sure its all working as it should.
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                  • Bowlerwell
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1052
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Yep, will do.
                    If I want to replace the rubber tubing, where's the best place to get new tube?
                    John Bowlerwell
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                    • mcandmar
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 5118
                      • Country: Ireland

                      #11
                      Any old vacuum tubing will do, just go to your nearest motor factors and buy a length of it. I had to do that myself as the kit came from a LHD car and needed extended.
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