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  • DamoM
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2005
    • 352
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Idle Problems

    having tried pretty much everything to get to the bottom of my idle problems I though I would give it one more go. I tried disconnecting the ISV and lo and behold the car idled - albeit a little high at 900 rpm.

    Does anyone know the ramifications of running the car with this disconnected? I have tried another ISV previoulsy and the problem persisted.
    *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
    *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
    *1991 RR 20v quattro
    *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs
  • jameswkr
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2003
    • 538
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    If by "ramifications" you mean harm to the engine, I do not believe so. However having driven my S2 with it disconnected, the car was unpleasant to drive - jerky and hesitant off/near idle . Try removing the ISV and give it a good clean ( there are lots of threads on this ). Lube with the mineral oil from the PS system.

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    • DamoM
      S2Forum Addict
      • Feb 2005
      • 352
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by jameswkr
      If by "ramifications" you mean harm to the engine, I do not believe so. However having driven my S2 with it disconnected, the car was unpleasant to drive - jerky and hesitant off/near idle . Try removing the ISV and give it a good clean ( there are lots of threads on this ). Lube with the mineral oil from the PS system.
      I know what you mean, mine is a little like that now you come to mention it but it is a whole lot better than the stalling!

      I actually have tried swapping the ISV with another one which I know to be working but it had the same result. previously I have had problems with diverter valves leaking air but this time it is rough even with the diverter valve taken out of the loop.
      *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
      *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
      *1991 RR 20v quattro
      *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #4
        have you cleaned the throttle body potensiometer?if ISV is ok then that could be a problem.give it a good cleaning

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        • DamoM
          S2Forum Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 352
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Originally posted by PapVas
          have you cleaned the throttle body potensiometer?if ISV is ok then that could be a problem.give it a good cleaning
          Actually changed it for a new one!!
          *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
          *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
          *1991 RR 20v quattro
          *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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          • kalsket
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Sep 2004
            • 78
            • Country: Finland

            #6
            I'm problem with RS2 idle too. Tried cleaning, another isv and checked TPS, No cure.

            Problem is that sometimes it works fine and idle starts around 1500 rpm and slowly degrades to arounr 900. Usually it drops to 5-600 before it humps up and gets stabilazed, sometimes it drops dead and somtimes keeps humping bit longer...
            4F 2006 avant 3.0tdi quattro
            4B 2002 S6 avant quattro
            typ85 sedan quattro with "minor" changes

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            • maRS2
              S2Forum Addict
              • Oct 2003
              • 366
              • Home: France Current: Thailand

              #7
              I've got same problem on my RS2

              some time 1200 rpm sometime 5-600 rpm and it hapened specialy after WOT
              I clean Isv and throtle body check that Isv working good and have a new TPS.

              It also hapened when changing altitude (going up mountain) so maybe it's related to the atmosphere pressure sensor

              What is strange is that when idling wrong if i give it a quick rev it comes back to normal
              RS2 chip by mihnea,PKM short IM, forge dump valve, 3" custom stainless exhaust, 18"X8" Porsche 996 rims, conti contact 245/35 Front 225/40 Rear, QR sport top mount, Powerflex bushes, aloy sub frame bushes, neuspeed 19mm RARB,Hard tranny mount, V8 torsen on RS2

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              • WabTheKing
                S2Forum Fiend
                • May 2004
                • 2567
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by DamoM
                Actually changed it for a new one!!
                there is adustment on them, if there not adujsted right on the slots then they idel *****

                i took mine off cleaned all my TB put it all backtogether and had a similar problem

                when you operate the TPS theres a little click when its on its idel postion, if it dosent click when your TB is closed thats when it can do this

                loosen the two screws and rotate it round abit untill you have the click when you shut the TB

                regards
                will

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                • maRS2
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 366
                  • Home: France Current: Thailand

                  #9
                  I check the click on TPS it's perfect adjusted.
                  But still have this problem
                  RS2 chip by mihnea,PKM short IM, forge dump valve, 3" custom stainless exhaust, 18"X8" Porsche 996 rims, conti contact 245/35 Front 225/40 Rear, QR sport top mount, Powerflex bushes, aloy sub frame bushes, neuspeed 19mm RARB,Hard tranny mount, V8 torsen on RS2

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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #10
                    could it be a MAF problem?or a temperature sensor problem?
                    I mean the MAF could be reading the air flow wrongly and have problems with the idle.Have you pulled any codes?

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                    • DamoM
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 352
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      checked the TPS and the switch is activated on closed throttle.

                      The MAF has been swapped out with another one from a working car (that idles ok!).

                      Put a new temp sensor in but no change.

                      I have run all of the checks on all sensors, including altitude sensor etc.
                      *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                      *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                      *1991 RR 20v quattro
                      *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                      • WabTheKing
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • May 2004
                        • 2567
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        might sound stupid but have you checked the wire/plug?
                        i had a problem with the temp sensor on the back of the block for the cold starting,

                        changed it for a new one still had the prob, checked for a voltage - nout

                        checked all the fuses/releys everything, problem was the wire had broken in the plug.

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