Coil pack watch

[Jon441cc]

The point is that when the next coil or POS give up you dont have to pay another 100 pounds! The 1,8 parts are far cheaper and everywhere to become!

I think if it holds it is something good! But i would go for the Higher amp system 034 sell!

the 034 coils and harness are £190 + £30 shipping, OE coils are £67 plus VAT each, plus POS's at around £45 each plus VAT, £100 differance

I will eventually be going with 034 high output coils :mischeif: coils can be mounted on the strut bar away from the heat

[S2 Ant]

I paid under £350 for 5 OEM coilpacks over the counter from ECP thats about £100, if your POS fails, ok thats another £90+VAT to replace both, so you;re looking more like £200, i still prefer to have the OEM stuff in there, my POS's are still fine from new... thats going on 14yrs old now.

These tests are looking at a couple of weeks to see if they last..... what does this tell you?

[Billman]

They last for years in 1,8 Turbo engines (they are since 1997 i think in the market)! The Test here is to see if they can stand the heat under the cover!

There was some experience that the older models dont last under th eCover!

[S2 Ant]

Im not knocking whats going on, but i dont see the point for such a marginal saving in the hope that something newer will do the same job when we know that the OEM parts have lasted well over 10yrs and testing something that had to be redeisgned.

Yes 1.8T's were around in '97, they also redesigned the coilpacks used due to failures, these were a huge fault on the engine and very common knowledge.

Im simply saying i wouldnt take the risk when we know full well that the OEM parts are more than up to the job, but then if something needs doing i'll do it properly and not half measures... i had 1 misfiring but replaced all 5 for example.

[Billman]

How much does 1 1,8 Coil pack costs?

[martinjs]

What about big power cars which will produce more underbonnet heat? I guess they will have to run with the cover off?

[Fat Audi 80]

I am sticking with OEM....

Bye

[Corey]

Oh I missed this yesterday, what a storm in a teacup.

I am not hoping to show what is achievable over a couple of weeks but am merely detailing what results I am finding long term, the weekly hit is just to keep it current.

Sure you can replace and stick with the OEM stuff but there are some people that need a more cost effective solution.

Hey if you don't like it, don't buy it.

The "common" 1.8T coil failure was the original coil which the manufacturer recalled and replaced with the version that is being used on all VAG 1.8T stuff today.
When was the last time you heard about a new coil failing?

This is just another option that is all and my report on how long the coils last with my cover on.

[Fat Audi 80]

Oh I missed this yesterday, what a storm in a teacup.

I am not hoping to show what is achievable over a couple of weeks but am merely detailing what results I am finding long term, the weekly hit is just to keep it current.

Sure you can replace and stick with the OEM stuff but there are some people that need a more cost effective solution.

Hey if you don't like it, don't buy it.

The "common" 1.8T coil failure was the original coil which the manufacturer recalled and replaced with the version that is being used on all VAG 1.8T stuff today.
When was the last time you heard about a new coil failing?

This is just another option that is all and my report on how long the coils last with my cover on.

Hi Corey,

We were not knocking your efforts at all, I just wanted to understand the pros and cons of the different set ups. For me personally this is too far from OEM for me to consider using on my even if I means paying a premium for the original kit.

Cheers,

Steve.

(I am definitely going now )

[merlin's S4]

I paid around £20-25 each for my 1.8T coilpacks! Another big advantage of the 1.8T conversion is that all the coils have their own plug into the loom, where as the OEM coils are wired directly into the loom. Think about how much trouble everyone has trying to locate the source of a missfire, particularly intermittant missfires or missfires under high load situation! There is no sure fire method of testing the original ignition system so it's always difficult and incredibly frustrating to diagnose that, say #5 coilpack is faulty for example. With the later coils you can just keep a spare and swap individual coils in a matter of seconds, so you just keep trying the 5 coils until you find the one that's faulty! Simple!! And you don't have to worry whether it might be a POS rather than a coil because they're part of the 1.8T coils as already stated.

[Jamo]

Im not knocking whats going on, but i dont see the point for such a marginal saving in the hope that something newer will do the same job when we know that the OEM parts have lasted well over 10yrs and testing something that had to be redeisgned.

Yes 1.8T's were around in '97, they also redesigned the coilpacks used due to failures, these were a huge fault on the engine and very common knowledge.

Im simply saying i wouldnt take the risk when we know full well that the OEM parts are more than up to the job, but then if something needs doing i'll do it properly and not half measures... i had 1 misfiring but replaced all 5 for example.

The oems aren't up to the job thats the whole point

Coreys set are NOT 1.8T's they are different.

The new coil packs will run fine without the cover, some like me are vain and want to keep the cover and this thread is too see if the packs can run with them as they weren't designed to be used as such.

[S2 Ant]

The oems aren't up to the job thats the whole point

13Yrs of abuse in my car and just about all other S2's casts serious doubts over that statement in my opinion!

[Bibby]

I paid around £20-25 each for my 1.8T coilpacks! Another big advantage of the 1.8T conversion is that all the coils have their own plug into the loom, where as the OEM coils are wired directly into the loom.

Have you written up a "how-to" guide for the work?

[S2 Ant]

Can i just add on to this thread that im simply after good reasons to warrent these over OEM and not out to attack anyone or anything personal

[merlin's S4]

These are the coilpacks from the 1.8T but they are the later, improved versions (part# 06B 905 115L) to deal with the well documented problems that Audi had with the original coilpacks. I think I remember seeing that most of the new versions are made by Beru, the same as manufactured the original S2 coilpacks!

With reference to the service life of the original coilpacks, apparently Audi themselves list them as a service item at 120k. Now I know that many sets have done well and gone way past this mileage but it just shows that they are expected to break down. The trouble is that once one goes it's difficult to locate which one is faulty and even when you do find and replace it, the chances are that it's only a matter of time before the others start going. Plus, we all know that the original wiring becomes extremely brittle and I've not even started on the troublesome POS!! I really can't see what all the fuss is about. I think you'd be hard pushed to find a genuine disadvantage of using this conversion apart from maybe the coilpack cover issue, but this itself has not been proved conclusively (hence the start of this thread!). The 1.8T coilpacks are cheap, easy to fit and replace and don't forget, they're newer technology. Reliability doesn't seem to be an issue as there are many 5cyl turbo cars running this conversion (some high power cars), especially in the States and I don't reckon Audi are likely to risk making the same mistake twice!!

I'm very happy that I bit the bullet and did this conversion!!