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  • dkw_dude
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2003
    • 555
    • Country: Norway

    #1

    GT3071 questions

    Hi forum
    My RS2 turbo is destroyed and I need a new turbo. And the Garret GT3071 is tempting me, will run moderate boost (running on stock internals, refurbed head recently thoug) but with headroom for future upgrades.

    But I have some questions. Is anybody running this turbo w RS2 exh. manifold and will there be any clearance between turbo and chassis? Also, I have stock cams, will this be ok with this turbo? I know it won't be the optimum solution but will it work ok for a start? (will try to run my current RS2 software as 034 claims this will work ok).

    Have searched forum for info, found several interesting threads but no answers for my qs.
    Leif-Helge
    -91 S2 VEMS and Comp Turbo
    -12 B** 530XD Touring "S2 parts transporter, and daily driver"
  • Faheemo
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2005
    • 544
    • Country: South Africa

    #2
    3071 may not fit as the compressor side is a bit larger, but i not certain as i dont have a rs2 manifold.
    3071 is gr8 and perfect upgrade for rs2 turbo with lotsa extra power.
    should work with rs2 software but u will need bigger injectors for sure.
    I had rs2 software on my car for a whilst and the car did not run 100% .. tends to surge with rs2 software and also hits the boost limit early as the ballbearing turbo spools up super quick.
    you will defn need a custom software to get car 100% .

    I feel 2871 is direct replacement for rs2 turbo and 3071 is a bigger upgrade in terms of power wise.

    pic s2 turbo vs 3071
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    • dkw_dude
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Jul 2003
      • 555
      • Country: Norway

      #3
      Originally posted by Faheemo
      3071 may not fit as the compressor side is a bit larger, but i not certain as i dont have a rs2 manifold.
      3071 is gr8 and perfect upgrade for rs2 turbo with lotsa extra power.
      should work with rs2 software but u will need bigger injectors for sure.
      I had rs2 software on my car for a whilst and the car did not run 100% .. tends to surge with rs2 software and also hits the boost limit early as the ballbearing turbo spools up super quick.
      you will defn need a custom software to get car 100% .
      I feel 2871 is direct replacement for rs2 turbo and 3071 is a bigger upgrade in terms of power wise.
      Thanks for the quick reply Faheemo!
      Will the 2871 be work better with the RS2 software, it sounds like surging is an issue here too. I guess that it would be best to get the car mapped straight away if I install a 3071. And then the clutch should be upgraded an so on, this will be awkward at the moment as I have limited space around the car where it is now. Hmm..
      Leif-Helge
      -91 S2 VEMS and Comp Turbo
      -12 B** 530XD Touring "S2 parts transporter, and daily driver"

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      • magarv
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jul 2004
        • 323
        • Home: Norway

        #4
        Originally posted by dkw_dude
        Thanks for the quick reply Faheemo!
        Will the 2871 be work better with the RS2 software, it sounds like surging is an issue here too. I guess that it would be best to get the car mapped straight away if I install a 3071. And then the clutch should be upgraded an so on, this will be awkward at the moment as I have limited space around the car where it is now. Hmm..
        I would not have used the 2871, i´ve read that there can be problem with surging as you mentioned.
        Search this forum i think there is some threads about it.
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        • Greg_S
          Administrator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12430
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          take a look in the Turbo Calcs thread I have posted, it has some calcs for the 3071 turbo
          Greg

          S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

          '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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          • Micky B
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Sep 2006
            • 77
            • Country: Hungary

            #6
            Hello,

            I've installed a 3071R ar .63 turbo on a 4cyl golf III gti engine high compr and stock cams (ABF), with tubular exh manifold and works really nice, we use it on 1-1.2 bar and no surge, have boost over 2000 rpm, at 3000 rpm as much boost as i want till 8000rpm limit. So with 5 cyl i think you should use bigger turbine .82 or even 1.06 not to overrev the turbo and still have good drivebility, (if you want to boost it over 1.5 bar.)
            But how you can install it on rs2 mnifold i dont have experience.
            www.bauerracing.hu

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            • jade
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jan 2005
              • 1811
              • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

              #7
              Hi
              I have a gt3071r on my rs2 Problems are There needs to be a mod done so compressor
              does not hit chassie ; air box wont fit , does not run well with rs2 chips runs better with my upgarded chips i have some surge but hope a good remap will fix this

              Cheers Jade
              RS 2 580HP

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              • Greg_S
                Administrator
                • Jul 2003
                • 12430
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                what mods do you have to make?
                Greg

                S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                • Jaap
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 258
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #9
                  3071

                  So i can forget it to install this turbo on my stock EM (RS2) and plans of installing a RS2 airbox. in my Urq.

                  Greetz Jaap

                  So a tubular EM is a option and forget the RS2 airbox.

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                  • dkw_dude
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 555
                    • Country: Norway

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jade
                    Hi
                    I have a gt3071r on my rs2 Problems are There needs to be a mod done so compressor
                    does not hit chassie ; air box wont fit , does not run well with rs2 chips runs better with my upgarded chips i have some surge but hope a good remap will fix this
                    Cheers Jade
                    Hi Jade
                    Do you have a pic of the compressor touching the chassis? I think i remember from a different tread that you were thinking of changing the engine mount, did you do that? I changed my engine mounts for a pair of new ones a while ago and the engine had better clearance from the chassis afterwards.
                    Leif-Helge
                    -91 S2 VEMS and Comp Turbo
                    -12 B** 530XD Touring "S2 parts transporter, and daily driver"

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                    • Jon441cc
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2061
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jaap
                      So i can forget it to install this turbo on my stock EM (RS2) and plans of installing a RS2 airbox. in my Urq.

                      Greetz Jaap

                      So a tubular EM is a option and forget the RS2 airbox.
                      Originally posted by JShadzi
                      Originally posted by rs2coupe
                      Javad I want the engine bay to look standard as in keep the rs2 airbox and rs2 intercooler and piping, rs2 inlet manifold, 034 RS2EM or RS2 EM I also want to achieve 400hp maybe more if the turbo will allow. What is my options and are any of your turbos on sale fits my category?
                      Absolutely, the GT3071 or the K26/T04E as described above fit the bill.
                      I'll try and find some pics.
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                      • rs2coupe
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1782
                        • Home: Trinidad and Tobago Current: United States

                        #12
                        I specifically asked Javad@034 about fitting the GT3071 with rs2 airbox and rs2 EM/ 034 rs2 EM inside an ABY converted Coupe and replied that it would work. Iam now dismayed and confused.
                        Cheers mis amigos,
                        _Anton

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                        • S4-Sleden
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 220
                          • Country: Norway

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dkw_dude
                          Hi Jade
                          Do you have a pic of the compressor touching the chassis? I think i remember from a different tread that you were thinking of changing the engine mount, did you do that? I changed my engine mounts for a pair of new ones a while ago and the engine had better clearance from the chassis afterwards.
                          You can try to put some shims under the engine mount to tilt the engine a tad. I know its not after the book but hey,its worth a try A friend did just the same with his car and has run for years without problems with driveline stress or other things. He tilted his engine cuz of clearance for turbo....i think he "lifted" the engine 3 cm`s on one of the engine mounts (the right one)
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                          • jade
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1811
                            • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dkw_dude
                            Hi Jade
                            Do you have a pic of the compressor touching the chassis? I think i remember from a different tread that you were thinking of changing the engine mount, did you do that? I changed my engine mounts for a pair of new ones a while ago and the engine had better clearance from the chassis afterwards.
                            Hi
                            changed engine mounts not to much differents , more when i changed gearbox mounts
                            Jade
                            RS 2 580HP

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                            • jade
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 1811
                              • Home: New Zealand Current: Spain

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rs2coupe
                              I specifically asked Javad@034 about fitting the GT3071 with rs2 airbox and rs2 EM/ 034 rs2 EM inside an ABY converted Coupe and replied that it would work. Iam now dismayed and confused.
                              I asked too , but the thing i said earlyer are the problems i found i brought a full kit maf hose , oil lines , turbo
                              Cheers Jade
                              RS 2 580HP

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