Hi Guys, I have to weld a small bracket on my tow bar (which is on the car) Is there any problem welding whilst the ECU is connected, or does it have to be removed?
Welding & the ECU
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Never had an issue, Mig or tig. I don't bother disconecting anything..
you could play it safe and use a oxy/accetelene torch, then oops i set the car of fire!
Just make sure the earth cable is on a good place and near to the weld.Rob..
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It is pretty easy to take off negative battery terminal just in case.
I always unplug the ecu, as I have fried a couple of ignition amps when welding an exhaust pipe tip. First time I thought it was a coincidence, after second time I am pretty sure.
Also, unplugging the ecu is not that bad of a task, when comparing to the pain of finding a new one, and unplugging after that.Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspiratedComment
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Your definitely should disconnect battery when doing any welding - its for the health of your ECU, ABS, Airbag and any other sensitive devices !
PaulPaul Nugent
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welding can kill the ecu, alternator and any other sensitive electrical parts, it can also cause very strange and annoying electrical problems which can be a nightmare to trace- as can jump starting the car- mk2 golf gtis were bad for this- the ecu messed up and opened all the injectors when the ignition was on- you try to start a car that has all the bores full of fuel!!
If in any doubt disconnect the battery- one 10mm nut can save you a lot of hassle!!
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when i had my bypass pipes weleded recently at longlife basingstoke they spent ages looking for the battery in the engine bay....
after a while i pointed them in the direction of the rear seat.
not sure if they only disconnected it, but they also connected a box (suppression system) across the terminals to prevent spikes.
Brian
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That is what I would do actually - to be sure to be sure - and with the ABS controller actually !Paul Nugent
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Agreed Paul.
Voltage spikes big enough to damage ECU's etc are apparently possible even with the battery disconnected
Worth doing just in case considering how easy it is!Comment
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Very strange that I must have welded at least 50 cars and never had a problem!
Perhaps its down to the make of welding machine.Rob..
94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
87 UR 20v ABY
97 S6 Avant
96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8Comment
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That or you have injected spurious eletrical gremlins into 50 cars that can't be traced to a welding episode
No seriously I think this is just a matter of 'best practise' really - maybe the first electrical welding machines were really bad in this regard and modern stuff is OK.
Better safe than sorry I say.
There is also a risk of damage to the ABS controller when the car is in a paint drying oven - strange but true - there is specific mention of this in the OFRM that the ABS controller gets damaged by prolonged high temperature !
PaulPaul Nugent
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