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  • aronmatic2
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jan 2004
    • 2129
    • Country: Hungary

    #1

    help to find big injectors

    i am looking for big injectors. i have to replace my 750rc-s.
    my rc-s on 95% now. i looking for 900-1000cc high impedance injectors.
    if anybody has any place,where i can find,please let me know.
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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Are you serious? On a GT30R your 750RC's are at 95 injector duty?

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    • prosty
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jun 2005
      • 1114
      • Country: Sweden

      #3
      Why high? Just get a resistance to each injector and go with low, I don't think that it exist much more bigger than 750 cc high imp. I have 788 cc injectors and they work great (with a resistance)

      Are you running ethanol or gasoline? if gas then good job in maxing out the injectors
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      • Bram
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        • Aug 2006
        • 2582
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        Have you tried 034 motorsport already?

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          They only do 60lb in high impedance which is smaller than the ones Arons have now.

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          • aronmatic2
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jan 2004
            • 2129
            • Country: Hungary

            #6
            Originally posted by Jamo
            Are you serious? On a GT30R your 750RC's are at 95 injector duty?
            yes jamo. i am close to the end on 2.1 bar on 6500rpm.
            maybe because of too rich mixture, but i like to use injectors on 70% max duty.
            other thing, i bought a gt35/40r


            Originally posted by prosty
            Why high? Just get a resistance to each injector and go with low, I don't think that it exist much more bigger than 750 cc high imp. I have 788 cc injectors and they work great (with a resistance)

            Are you running ethanol or gasoline? if gas then good job in maxing out the injectors
            i have standalone system, i just have to switch, but i heard many bad things about big, low impedance injectors.
            this is the only reason.
            i am running with omv super100 gasoline.
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            • aronmatic2
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jan 2004
              • 2129
              • Country: Hungary

              #7
              i just thinking more.
              i can open the injectors to 100%, if my fuelpump cant deliver more.
              i have 044 bosch motorsport.
              Where is the end of this pump?
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              • BRY
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Nov 2004
                • 3755
                • Home: United Nations Current: Vietnam

                #8
                You need a set of B280705282/2 v2766 injectors
                They are Bosch motorsport injectors and flow 990ccs
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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by aronmatic2
                  i just thinking more.
                  i can open the injectors to 100%, if my fuelpump cant deliver more.
                  i have 044 bosch motorsport.
                  Where is the end of this pump?
                  Trust me that pump will cope with your demands!

                  According to MRC injectors dont like perform very well above 85% duty cycle.

                  LMAO @ you buying a GT35/40, I knew it would happen when you went for a stroker setup!

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    Trust me that pump will cope with your demands!

                    According to MRC injectors dont like perform very well above 85% duty cycle.

                    LMAO @ you buying a GT35/40, I knew it would happen when you went for a stroker setup!
                    Agreed on duty cycle with jamo... That Bosch pump (0580 254 044) can flow 200 liters per hour. Spec sheet attached. Note how capability reduces with lower voltage at the pump and this one is spec'd at 13.5V !

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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #11
                      Doing a little quick math... A 550cc/min injector has a theoretical limit of 33 liters per hour (l/h). For our 5-pot engines thats a flow requirement of 165 l/h - well within the capability of the Bosch mospo pump.

                      This site has good general info - http://www.stealth316.com/2-fuelpumpguide.htm

                      Note how flow capability is reduced with increased fuel pressure. This is worth considering for high boost applications. Say the nominal fuel pressure is 4bar at the FPR. With say 2bar boost at the redline there is a requirement for 6bar of fuel delivery pressure...

                      But that 200l/h rating is for 5bar delivery pressure. There must be a graph online or from Bosch on this subject... And if the voltage at the pump terminals is lower than 13.5V then flow will be further reduced.
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                      • caterpillar
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2480

                        #12
                        http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/get_links.html

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                        • prosty
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 1114
                          • Country: Sweden

                          #13
                          044 pump is good for 550-600 hp . I've heard 700 with a NA car. I'm using constant power on my 044 to juice it up a bit extra. I have no problem with the fuel and I'm running it in the tank with approx 550 hp or more.

                          All big power cars are using low imp injectors, just get a good brand, delphi , bosch or Siemens Deka (NOT THE LONG NARROW ONES!!!) then you're safe. I'm using delphi injectors. My car is tuned without exhaust temp.
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                          • aronmatic2
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2129
                            • Country: Hungary

                            #14
                            thanks guys. i have all answers, what i needed.
                            i will check the volts at my fuelpump first.
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