About Pauter Rods

[Mihnea]

Just one thought on this, with no intention of busting Justin's b@lls:

If the I-Beam rods were so good as Pauter says, why don't car manufacturers use them directly as OEM, at least the I-Beam profile if not Pauters directly?

The other problem when you're quoting "I've bend just about any other rod on the market" is that you'll always find one idiot or another who will bend even the best brands of rods available, simply because he will try to make things 200% of what's normally possible, can you blame the rods for that? IMO not. I've heard of guys who have bent Carillos before, but every time you try to find a good reason for bending the rods, you'll see "I was running 35+ psi on pump gas in CA" or "I tried to go too far with the timing advance" or stuff like that. Does all that imply that the rods are faulty?

Definitely not.

The day I build my monster motor, I'll go for a set of Carillos.


C'mon Justin, get us some real nice prices on Carillos and I'll get myself a set too!


Cheers,

Mihnea

[Doug_RS2]

Carillos are nearly twice the price these are - these should be good enough for most of us.

[Stick Insect]

What's wrong with Arrow or Farndon , they do all right for F1 engines. 'I' or 'H' beams.

Shipping is easier as they are both in the uk.

There is nothing wrong with American engineering ( apart from the Ford Edsel!) especially as the Dollar rate is good at the moment.

David

[olsonjus]

I'm all for the arrow rods, but they retail for $250+ usd.

The guy I was quoting makes 850whp out of a 4 cylinder honda b18. This is running 35-40psi on methanol. I think that qualifies the guy. He is also a mechanical enginer. He is now working with Bob Norwood on the Norad project. This car should revolutionize Sport Compact FWD....

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684622&page=1

http://bobnorwood.com/

http://world-racing.com/

And for the question why OEM doesn't use this design?? I'll answer with another question: Why doesn't OEM build 1000hp 4 cylinders???

[auditude]

H-Beam Vs. I-Beam

Some info, altho' the Pauters are more of a "plus" (+) cross section than an "I" beam style:

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/82378/index3.html

"For years the battle has raged on as to which is better, an I-beam or an H-beam. In pure tension and compression, they are both equally capable, assuming equal cross-sectional area. But when you add the fact that some components of the combustion event attempt to screw the piston down the cylinder, the greater distance from the centerline of the pin to the edge of the beam gives the H-beam an advantage in resisting such twisting forces. We?ve seen both designs used successfully in a wide variety of extreme applications, so the jury is still out. Perhaps the biggest advantage of the H-beam design is that it gives the manufacturer more flexibility when sculpting the rod into the most effective form from a strength-to-mass standpoint."

[audiman]

nothing wrong with arrows. good price and in stock. I have them in my S2