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  • rj scotty
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2006
    • 2195
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #1

    Still stalling

    Evening All


    There have been developments with my cutting out issue.

    I have fitted a new G28 speed sensor today and also a rs2 maf.

    Now the violent loss of all power for a split second at mid to high revs has gone

    However I still have the stalling issue at idle.
    Its very intermittent, can happen for no apparent reason or some times when a large electrical load such as A/c or fan switches on.

    I have checked for air leaks and none are apparent and as the car (standard aby apart from 034 coil set and rs2 maf on ABYchip) boosts to 1.4 bar I'm satisfied this is not the issue.

    Which brings me onto the good old ISV.

    I have removed the top pipe and sprayed some carb cleaner into it.
    This appears to have made a marginal difference.

    However would a faulty ISV be the problem when coming back onto the throttle at anything up to 2000 rpm ?
    As the car will still lose all power for a split second, agine super intermittently

    No fault codes apart from "G28 implausible signal which I have ruled out"

    If it needs replacing ill replace it just seams a little strange


    All help greatly appreciated

    cheers

    rich

    PS despite what I have read rs2 MAF onto s2 ABY air box is a straight swap
    Last edited by rj scotty; 10 November 2007, 23:42.
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  • Knight Rider S4
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2005
    • 3541
    • Country: Scotland

    #2
    Have you replaced the fuel filter
    93 S2 Avant Parting
    91 URQ RR
    02 A4 tdi Avant

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    • spink
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4382
      • Country: England

      #3
      your best off taking the isv off and soaking it over night and getting all the crap out of it.

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      • rj scotty
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2006
        • 2195
        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

        #4
        Originally posted by Knight Rider S4
        Have you replaced the fuel filter
        yes has been replaced but you make a good point, fuel pump maybe ?


        fuel pump makes a gurgling sound on start up, has done for a year.
        Has it finally gone ?

        fuel pressure regulator maybe ?

        Last edited by rj scotty; 10 November 2007, 23:43.
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
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        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • rj scotty
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2006
          • 2195
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #5
          Originally posted by spink
          your best off taking the isv off and soaking it over night and getting all the crap out of it.
          In what carb/brake cleaner, IPA, petrol ?

          again, all help appreciated

          cheers

          rich
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          "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
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          1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
          1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
          2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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          • Knight Rider S4
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Mar 2005
            • 3541
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            Or relay to worth checking
            93 S2 Avant Parting
            91 URQ RR
            02 A4 tdi Avant

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            • rj scotty
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2006
              • 2195
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

              #7
              Originally posted by Knight Rider S4
              Or relay to worth checking
              Would an out put test confirm this ?



              cheers

              rich
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              "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
              BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

              1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
              1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
              2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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              • Knight Rider S4
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Mar 2005
                • 3541
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                To a certain point yes
                93 S2 Avant Parting
                91 URQ RR
                02 A4 tdi Avant

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                • spink
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4382
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Ive always found IPA does a good job.

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                  • Acidburn
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 13459
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Just as a possibility when ross did project 400 (his 3b coupe) he found that his turbo was slightly sitting on the chassis and the vibrations kept stalling the car, whats your engine mount like on that side?

                    Probably best to clean the ISV fully to check that is not the problem.

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                    • spink
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4382
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      After you have cleaned your ISV(or before even) i believe there is an output test you can do in vagcom to see if its actually moving as it should..

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                      • rj scotty
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • May 2006
                        • 2195
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #12
                        I think you need the full version of vag com to do the out put test, however I think this way of doing it should work.



                        As for the engine mount Ill have a look.

                        Ill give you an example though, I had the car running stationary in the garage for 20 minutes no problem then all of a sudden for no apparent reason she stalls, restarts straight way and all vag com says is G28 implausible signal.

                        cheers

                        rich
                        sigpic
                        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                        • GT500
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 2181
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          How's the tag on the flywheel? it might have half let go, they are only spot welded on.
                          May have moved just enough to lose the tolerence between sensor and tag.

                          HTH
                          Rob..
                          94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                          87 UR 20v ABY
                          97 S6 Avant
                          96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                          1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                          • rj scotty
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • May 2006
                            • 2195
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                            #14
                            Ill have a look at that whats the best way to view it ?
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                            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                            • GT500
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2181
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Take the starter off, turn engine untill it appears
                              Rob..
                              94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                              87 UR 20v ABY
                              97 S6 Avant
                              96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                              1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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