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  • alg
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2004
    • 1160

    #16
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    Alastair
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    • alg
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Apr 2004
      • 1160

      #17
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      • ericd
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Nov 2003
        • 1240
        • Country: Scotland

        #18
        Al,

        as mentioned previous, mine tied up with the poor condition and subtle leak under the clamp on the maf-turbo hose, I cleaned up both lambda connections at the bulkhead previous to the find, might be worth a look.

        I'm sure I the error for a while before finding the culprit, but TBH it never seemed to affect the performance or fuel economy

        HTH

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        • alg
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Apr 2004
          • 1160

          #19
          Thanks Eric. Just replaced the MAF to turbo with a samco. Took me hours. What do you think about the oil contamination around the breather tubing under the IM. I had done the PCV last year & have cleaned the area with the intention of watching the situation?
          Alastair
          RS2

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          • ericd
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Nov 2003
            • 1240
            • Country: Scotland

            #20
            Originally posted by alg
            Thanks Eric. Just replaced the MAF to turbo with a samco. Took me hours. What do you think about the oil contamination around the breather tubing under the IM. I had done the PCV last year & have cleaned the area with the intention of watching the situation?
            might be daft question but when you clear the error, does it come back straight away,
            bit of PITA to keep checking/clearing codes, just interested if takes a while to reappear, or it's conditional on revs/useage etc, you using vag-com to clear errors or just pulling the fuses ?, you had a look at lambda condition recently ?

            p.s.
            I've changed that maf/turbo hose that often , I think I can do off/on one in around 30 mins and get it off with all the bits attached, you any chance of making it to Crieff next Sunday ?

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            • alg
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Apr 2004
              • 1160

              #21
              Thats a question I cannot answer. The codes were found at service a month ago. Cleared & did not come back following a quick test drive.
              I have not checked them since..really need to get vagcom now I am doing some work on the car myself.
              Did the lambda end last year. The old one was done in 2004 when I got the car. It was brown with a partial covering of white fluff !. Two explainations oil contamination & coolant ??? but nothing to suggest gasket failure OR the b*ggers never changed it.

              Crieff is a maybe
              Alastair
              RS2

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              • GT500
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2006
                • 2181
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Hi Al,
                I have just changed the temp sensor on the back of the head,
                Car seems better at cold start, Steep hill away from work was always slow to get going, not tonight!
                I will wipe my 561 and see how it goes, was also quicker of boost, almost like it was too rich before.
                Fingers crossed thats the culprit!
                Rob..
                94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                87 UR 20v ABY
                97 S6 Avant
                96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                • GT500
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 2181
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Well still have 561!
                  So today I tested the fuel pressure. supposed to be 3.8 to 4.0 bar at tick over.
                  Mine is ever so slightly over 4.0 bar, give the throttle a blip and 4.4 bar!
                  So I have ordered one from Andrew Pages as they are on back order at the stealers.
                  8 quid cheaper also!
                  It arrives on thursday so I will let you know if it sorts it.
                  Rob..
                  94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                  87 UR 20v ABY
                  97 S6 Avant
                  96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                  1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                  • alg
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1160

                    #24
                    The car goes well with the samco MAF to turbo which I suspect is due to the OEM collapsing under vacuum (metal bracing hoop displaced).
                    Still not re checked codes but if cleared it may be due to the OEM hose collapsing therefore reducing air intake under boost & the ECU compensating with extra fuel. Only a theory tho..............
                    Alastair
                    RS2

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                    • GT500
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 2181
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Am I being ignored here? or is it just me....
                      Rob..
                      94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                      87 UR 20v ABY
                      97 S6 Avant
                      96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
                      1967 Ford Mustang,Eleanor,460ci v8

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                      • A80Avant
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 10873
                        • Country: Greece

                        #26
                        Rob,
                        if you have changed the MAF,lamda,etc then the fuel pressure is something that could cause this problem as well.

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                        • alg
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1160

                          #27
                          Originally posted by GT500
                          Well still have 561!
                          So today I tested the fuel pressure. supposed to be 3.8 to 4.0 bar at tick over.
                          Mine is ever so slightly over 4.0 bar, give the throttle a blip and 4.4 bar!
                          So I have ordered one from Andrew Pages as they are on back order at the stealers.
                          8 quid cheaper also!
                          It arrives on thursday so I will let you know if it sorts it.
                          Go on, what have you ordered. I guess a FPR
                          Alastair
                          RS2

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                          • alg
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1160

                            #28
                            Originally posted by GT500
                            Am I being ignored here? or is it just me....
                            its just you...........
                            Alastair
                            RS2

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #29
                              Hold on... The FPR is spec'd for 3.8-4.2bar on the ABY. Lets call it 4bar, but with the engine idling with manifold pressure at -0.5bar you should see 3.5bar fuel pressure as the FPR delivers fuel at 4bar ABOVE the manifold pressure.

                              So at 1.5bar boost you have 5.5bar fuel pressure - keeping you at 4bar above manifold. If you got ~4bar at idle then the fuel pressure is deffo too high and thats why the mixture is beyond the adaptation limits of the ECU.

                              Paul
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                              • alg
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 1160

                                #30
                                So is it too high due to a failing FPR.......just to confirm
                                Alastair
                                RS2

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