Is it possible to monitor the oem knock sensor on the s2?

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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #16
    No need - the knock sensor is essentially a microphone...
    Paul Nugent
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    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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    • a4kquattro
      S2Forum Addict
      • Feb 2005
      • 411
      • Country: United States

      #17
      quattro84: yes it is actually very easy in my opinion to pick up knock. its occurs in the 6khz range and is an irregular event, easily picked up in the audio file by the naked human ear. Usually when I use this tool for dyno tuning I start by recording audio from the car under low load on the dyno spinning the rollers in gear to redline. I use this as my baseline to compare full load audio runs. Its extremely easy to pick up discrepencies in sounds between the baseline and full load runs. This is extremely useful, since all exhaust and turbo noise is completely erased: only mechanical noises are recorded by the knock sensor.

      Example of a 'clean' pull, no knock: http://www.theswansonfamily.us/modul..._s6_onramp.mp3

      and here is a dyno example where I encountered knock on a customer car (quickly resolved!): http://www.efiexpress.com/downloads/...24_seconds.mp3
      Marc Swanson
      Proprietor, EFI Express
      95.5 //S6 Avant
      90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
      93' //S4
      83' UrQ
      97' F250 7.3 diesel

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #18
        I must get into this sometime - I am frankly amazed how clean the audio is with this method... Does seem that with practise one can hear audible knock with this method. I had always assumed it would be a lot gnarlier and hard to detect with the human hear.
        Paul Nugent
        Webmaster http://S2central.net
        Administrator http://S2forum.com

        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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        • a4kquattro
          S2Forum Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 411
          • Country: United States

          #19
          Originally posted by S2central.net
          I must get into this sometime - I am frankly amazed how clean the audio is with this method... Does seem that with practise one can hear audible knock with this method. I had always assumed it would be a lot gnarlier and hard to detect with the human hear.

          the 'secret' is in using shielded cable and grounding to the engine block. The noise is insane without it.
          Marc Swanson
          Proprietor, EFI Express
          95.5 //S6 Avant
          90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
          93' //S4
          83' UrQ
          97' F250 7.3 diesel

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #20
            marc does this mean that i have to use one of the factory sensors to do this at a time? take one plug off, plug the mic in and record?

            do you use any specific recorder on the laptop,or the windows one?

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            • a4kquattro
              S2Forum Addict
              • Feb 2005
              • 411
              • Country: United States

              #21
              Originally posted by A80Avant
              marc does this mean that i have to use one of the factory sensors to do this at a time? take one plug off, plug the mic in and record?

              do you use any specific recorder on the laptop,or the windows one?
              yes. I just use windows sound recorder.

              You also have the option of bolting a third knock sensor to the block if you wanted to, but I've always just disconnected one of the two factory sensors to record the audio.
              Marc Swanson
              Proprietor, EFI Express
              95.5 //S6 Avant
              90' Coupe Quattro V8 4.2L twin turbo
              93' //S4
              83' UrQ
              97' F250 7.3 diesel

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                How did I miss this? does it matter if you make the cable which knock sensor you plug into?

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                • Billman
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 4129

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  How did I miss this? does it matter if you make the cable which knock sensor you plug into?
                  Search for "knock senor hearing" spelled wrong.
                  Go Holset or Go RS4

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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #24
                    i have this cable, works very nice!

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