Difference between ABY and ADU cam sprocket

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  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #1

    Difference between ABY and ADU cam sprocket

    or "toothed belt pulley" in ETKA speak?

    The ABY (and AAN) sprocket/pulley PN is 034 109 105

    The ADU (RS2) sprocket/pulley PN is 034 109 105 B

    Is there a serious difference? (Key way cut a few degrees different?)

    Are there problems running the RS2 exhaust cam with a ABY (AAN) sprocket/pulley?

    Dave F.
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Nobody?
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • yodasfro
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Apr 2006
      • 129
      • Country: United States

      #3
      Shooting fish in a barrel Dave. LOL
      Austin
      1992 urs4 1991 200 20v avant 1990 90q 20v

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        AFAIK, plenty of folk of tried different exhaust cams (like 7A and ADU) on the ABY/AAN camshaft pulley so I don't think there are any deimensional differences. I can't be 100% certain - only a photo of both side by side will prove either way.

        Paul
        Paul Nugent
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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by yodasfro
          Shooting fish in a barrel Dave. LOL
          ?
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by S2central.net
            AFAIK, plenty of folk of tried different exhaust cams (like 7A and ADU) on the ABY/AAN camshaft pulley so I don't think there are any deimensional differences. I can't be 100% certain - only a photo of both side by side will prove either way. Paul
            I realize the people have tried 7A and ADU cams in AANs and ABYs. However, at least in the case of the ADU cam, I wonder if the ADU cam sprocket doesn't advance or retard the ADU cam just a bit, relative to the AAN/ABY cam sprocket. A photo of both sprockets would be excellent. I wonder where I can find one?
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • Rusty
              Super Moderator
              • Jun 2004
              • 18953
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              From what I've read elsewhere I think that the ADU cam wheel retards the timing 10 degrees, not sure if this is a physical change or just electronic. The ADU and ABY inlet cams are the same but the exhaust cam is higher lift and less duration.

              Running the RS2 exhaust on the ABY wheel will give a later opening exhaust valve with the same closing point and more lift.

              See here for cam specs.
              Cheers'en, AndyC
              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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              • Mixu
                S2Forum Buff
                • Dec 2004
                • 32
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                The difference is only on the hall sensor "cap". I measured it myself. Cap has ~5 degrees difference. But I can't remember which way.

                I can take pictures of both this weekend. My cylinder head needs work and I have couple ABY/AAN sprockets lying on the garage table. And the engine has ADU sprocket.
                And I'm installing adjustable sprocket anyway.
                Audi RS2 modded, modding more

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                • UrS4boy
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 11859
                  • Country: Canada

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mixu
                  The difference is only on the hall sensor "cap". I measured it myself. Cap has ~5 degrees difference. But I can't remember which way.

                  I can take pictures of both this weekend. My cylinder head needs work and I have couple ABY/AAN sprockets lying on the garage table. And the engine has ADU sprocket.
                  And I'm installing adjustable sprocket anyway.
                  Probably advanced. In any event, please take and post a photo, it will be good for the archives.
                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    Yes - some photos, clearly showing (or notated) with part numbers would be great Mixu. Thanks, Paul
                    Paul Nugent
                    Webmaster http://S2central.net
                    Administrator http://S2forum.com

                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                    • Mixu
                      S2Forum Buff
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 32
                      • Country: Finland

                      #11
                      Forgot to post the iamges about the cam gears. But here they are, sorry about the image sizes.
                      First image shows part numbers, not well though.
                      Left is AAN/ABY 034 109 105
                      right is ADU 034 109 105 B (the B is on the hall sender timing sender plate)
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                      • Mixu
                        S2Forum Buff
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 32
                        • Country: Finland

                        #12
                        Second picture shows the other sides.
                        Left ABY
                        Right ADU
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                        • Mixu
                          S2Forum Buff
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 32
                          • Country: Finland

                          #13
                          Upper is ADU
                          Lower is ABY
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                          • Mixu
                            S2Forum Buff
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 32
                            • Country: Finland

                            #14
                            Here also Dahlback cam gear.
                            Up left ABY
                            Up right Dahlback
                            Down left ADU
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                            • Mixu
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 32
                              • Country: Finland

                              #15
                              And the other sides
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