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  • MarkT
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Apr 2006
    • 82
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Dyno run

    Had my car on the rollers today, sorted a few vacuum hose leaks so runs much better. However my boost peaked at 19psi at 3k but then dropped to 11 at 6.3k. Which resuled in 240 ish bhp at flywheel. The question is should the boost drop off like this?.





    Mark
  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    A bit more detail on your setup would help...

    240 would be good for a standard ABY but your boost is much higher.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Acidburn
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Jun 2007
      • 13459
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3


      is a for sale add enough info for you andy

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        As discussed many many times - YES - boost tails off towards the red line. On my setups for K24 with no wastegate tampering or other tweaks its ~1.4bar max in the mid range and ~0.8bar at the redline. Multiply that by 14.5 for psi. You are a bit low in the mid range.

        Its hard to see your graph properly - but looks like a boost leak or its holding back in the mid range. What fuel are you using ?

        Could be coil packs holding you back too - you wont necessarily detect misfires.

        Could be MAF out of spec as well, but I'd get a proper boost leak check done first.

        COmpression good ?

        Spark plugs tight ?

        Fuel pressure ? - what are the AFRs from your plot ?
        Paul Nugent
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        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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        • MarkT
          S2Forum Fanatic
          • Apr 2006
          • 82
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          @ S2central

          I have been using super unleaded, 98 RON.

          Sparkplugs were torqued on the day as a check due to them notoriously loosening and popping out.

          How do you do compression test, that may be the next check?, oil pressure is 1.5bar when at hot idle.

          Haven't checked fuel pressure,how would this be done, I presume a gauge plumbed into the fuel line somewhere.

          AFR is that checked with the gas analyser up the exhaust, if so the results were perfect and the lamdba was working perfectly also

          Could a weak waste gate spring cause the boost to tail off?

          I must admit the sound of her on the rollers is awesome, when your in the chair you don't fully hear the noise!.

          Regards a much happier Mark

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          • MarkT
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Apr 2006
            • 82
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              COmpression test requires a cylinder compression gauge - bout 20 quid - insert to each spark plug hole (all plugs out and hall sender disconnected)... Then floor the throttle and crank the engine to build up pressure - you are looking for big differences acros the engine. Best done cold IMO...

              Fuel pressure needs a special gauge as well - bit more expensive - maybe best done at a garage this one - it does indeed T into the fuel line... You'll want to see the right pressure (4bar) above whatever the manifold pressure is. So idling with 0.5bar vacuum you'll see ~3.5bar fuel pressure... Then with 1bar boost you should see 5bar fuel pressure... This tests the FPR is working.

              AFR requires another special guage which can piggyback on your lambda probe in the downpipe, or use a test port further up the downpipe. Can't remember the thread required for a probe. Best checked by a specialist if you are new to this - rolling roads often do it - but I cant see it on your graph.

              Again - boost is supposed to tail off - otherwise the turbo dies with heat exhaustion (unless its a monster modified turbo).

              I still think air leak on the intake system is your problem... Just think that the pipework from MAF to the throttle body has to airtight - and that all the control tubes (narrow braided stuff) off the inlet to various other things also needs to be air tight... This is to ensure that the engine ingests all the air that it has measured and that it has correctly measured all of the air if you get my drift...

              That or maybe a sick/tired MAF - tried another one yet ?


              Paul




              Originally posted by MarkT
              @ S2central

              I have been using super unleaded, 98 RON.

              Sparkplugs were torqued on the day as a check due to them notoriously loosening and popping out.

              How do you do compression test, that may be the next check?, oil pressure is 1.5bar when at hot idle.

              Haven't checked fuel pressure,how would this be done, I presume a gauge plumbed into the fuel line somewhere.

              AFR is that checked with the gas analyser up the exhaust, if so the results were perfect and the lamdba was working perfectly also

              Could a weak waste gate spring cause the boost to tail off?

              I must admit the sound of her on the rollers is awesome, when your in the chair you don't fully hear the noise!.

              Regards a much happier Mark
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • MarkT
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Apr 2006
                • 82
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                @ S2central

                I replaced all the narrow braid stuff today, found a hole in the one to the one way valve that connects to the black(air con pipe)!!.

                I am going to rig up a pressure test kit, just need to find the appropriate stuff, any suggestions on where to purchase anything suitable?.

                I've got a compression tester so will attempt it sometime this week

                I have a Kjet fuel pressure tester to fit my ur, could this be adapted?, if so where do I connect it?

                AFR wasn't checked, this could be done at a later date


                Do the waste gate springs become weak, what rated one should I purchase to replace?.

                Thanks in advance

                Mark

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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  K-Jet runs higer pressures I believe so might not be the right scale.
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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