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  • s2_bo
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2005
    • 6067
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

    #1

    Knocking noise coming from engine

    Hello,

    My RS2 has been playing up a bit lately. Its slowly losing water and also the engine has started making quite a loud knocking noise.

    At first i though it was coming from the gearbox bellhousing but i think its actually coming from the rear top of the engine.

    I have taken this video you can clearly hear the knocking noise on it which increases with the reves. This has been happening for about 2 weeks but i think it might be getting louder.

    The water leak seams to be coming from the front of the engine. Maybe its the water feed for the turbo.
    Also i found a bit of milky residue on the inside of the oil cap, Is it possible for the RS2 metal head gasket to blow?
    Compression is not down as its still boosting very hard .

    Any help much appreciated.

    Cheers.
    Bo
    91 S2 coupé - RIP
    98 S8 - Luxury barge
  • s2_bo
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2005
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    • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

    #2
    Ohh and the oil level is pretty much spot on too so i dont think its the tappets.
    91 S2 coupé - RIP
    98 S8 - Luxury barge

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Clean the cap and then re-check in a bit. Losing water and milky doesn't sound great. Just trying to get your vid the now.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • shark_90
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Mar 2007
        • 1475
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Doesn't sound so good mate. No loss of compression though.. hmm. Can't help but water loss + oil cap points to water getting in where it shouldn't, hopefully not weeping into a cylinder.

        Hope you get it sorted.
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        • Rusty
          Super Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 18953
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          No luck. Can you not youtube it?
          Cheers'en, AndyC
          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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          • s2_bo
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Oct 2005
            • 6067
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

            #6
            Video now on youtube but its not finnished processing yet so wont be watchable till thats done.

            Thanks for your help.

            Bo
            91 S2 coupé - RIP
            98 S8 - Luxury barge

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            • GT500
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2006
              • 2181
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              When its been left over night take the plugs out and shine a torch down to look for zee water.
              Does the noise stay the same hot or cold?
              My knocking was the oil pump:
              https://<embed width="448" height="3...22007004.flv">

              Take the belts off first. pas can make similar noise.

              HTH
              Rob..
              94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
              87 UR 20v ABY
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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Difficult to diagnose on the video but IMO that sounds really unhealthy mate . If it's not manifold or pump related then I think it's going to be head-off time and start wobbling some pistons, not heard a noise like that just from a weak or gone HG but that's not asying much . Surely you've got a few RS2 engines lying about, or if you haven't then Stu certainly will Just Whip the head off and have a look if there's nothing obvious... 'just'

                Hope you get it sorted
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Almost forgot, a touch of WD40 on the belts shuts them up, worked a treat diagnosing a bad noise on mine.
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • EspenW
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1534
                    • Country: Norway

                    #10
                    My guess is rod knock, ie. a busted rod bearing.
                    It usually sounds like it comes from the head. Had the same thing on my Golf. Replaced them in an afternoon, and it has been golden ever since.

                    You can replace the rod bearings w/o pulling the engine. Remove oil pan and slide new bearings into place. Might be wise to plastigauge the mains, but they take a lot of abuse, mine were still within new spec after 240K (kms)
                    Don't drive the car as it is now, or a rod might pop out to say hi.
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                    • G60Rallye
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1321
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Deffinatly sounds engine related. Rythmical, and increases/ decreases with engine speed. Like has been said clean the cap off then take it for a drive, make sure it fully heats up and have another look at the cap. Also worth holding your hand over the oil filler hole to feel if there is much air being forced out.

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                      • EspenW
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1534
                        • Country: Norway

                        #12
                        On second thought, it might not sound as harsh as rod knock. Exhaust leak in another possibility. Check manifold for cracks.
                        Also make sure nothing is rubbing on the pulleys. Almost sounds like a plastic cover touching pulley teeth.
                        1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                        1994 80E Avant
                        1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                        • Pirvu Eugen
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1978
                          • Country: Romania

                          #13
                          I dont want to scare you...but sounds like a piston or rod bearing. You can try to disconect 1 spark at the time and check iff the noise disapiers...iff yes..is a piston slap.
                          I hope i am wrong!
                          All the best!
                          Eugen

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                          • mcandmar
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 5118
                            • Country: Ireland

                            #14
                            Check the spark plugs incase one has worked loose. Unfortunately it does sound like a head gasket or rod bearing
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                            • EspenW
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1534
                              • Country: Norway

                              #15
                              On second thought, it might not sound as harsh as rod knock. Exhaust leak in another possibility. Check manifold for cracks.
                              Also make sure nothing is rubbing on the pulleys. Almost sounds like a plastic cover touching pulley teeth.
                              1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                              1994 80E Avant
                              1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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