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  • avants2turbo
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Feb 2008
    • 1287
    • Country: England

    #1

    boost problems/ hessitance

    Im haveing some issues with the car when on boost, it seems to spool up ok but sometimes (3 outa 4 times) it doesnt boost smoothly, it like hesitates several times, with some like violant jerking...

    any ideas?
  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #2
    does it do it just before you go into wot,or when you are into wot?

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    • avants2turbo
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Feb 2008
      • 1287
      • Country: England

      #3
      definately does it at WOT dont think it does it when its boosting off WOT, not sure if it starts just before WOT....

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      • popdemonic
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Dec 2007
        • 1304
        • Country: Thailand

        #4
        check if the boost is leak.You'd better suspect the iginition(coils ,plug boots ,spark plugs,POSs) system next
        one of a few I5 from Asia.

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        • RoadKill
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Dec 2004
          • 567
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          sounds like a coil pack , same thing on my 100 S4 i had
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          • wilywyg
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Sep 2008
            • 94
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: Wales

            #6
            I just had the same and it was one of the POS , only on high boost 2.7k-3.5k revs
            changed mine for a 2.6 one and its sound , so the lads here said it would be.and i will take the cover off it to find out why!


            paul
            LIFE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

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            • avants2turbo
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Feb 2008
              • 1287
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by paulboy
              I just had the same and it was one of the POS , only on high boost 2.7k-3.5k revs
              changed mine for a 2.6 one and its sound , so the lads here said it would be.and i will take the cover off it to find out why!


              paul
              whats POS?

              still doing this....

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              • Flat on my back
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jan 2007
                • 2449
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                .

                Power
                Output
                Stage...also known as...

                Pile
                'O'
                Sheite...

                Each of the COP's needs a high power driver to 'fire' it.

                Carlos.

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                • avants2turbo
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1287
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by avants2turbo
                  whats POS?

                  still doing this....

                  Ah POS = Power Output Stage

                  do I still have this, ive got the apikol coil kit....

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                  i dont think mine uses the POS, it seems to have it built in... what should i check/how do i check it....

                  thanks

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                  • merlin's S4
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1539
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by avants2turbo
                    Ah POS = Power Output Stage

                    do I still have this, ive got the apikol coil kit....

                    Discover Apikol’s top-tier performance parts and expert installs for Audi, VW, Porsche, and BMW. Upgrade with OEM parts and enjoy a 12-month warranty!


                    i dont think mine uses the POS, it seems to have it built in... what should i check/how do i check it....

                    thanks
                    Correct, the 1.8t coilpacks, as used with the apikol kit, have built in amplifiers (POS). In my experience these coilpacks just fail completely leaving you running on 4 cylinders. They don't seem to give intermittant misses! I would look for a boost leak!
                    '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                    • EspenW
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1534
                      • Country: Norway

                      #11
                      Check plugs and check resistance of the plug connectors (sits between plugs and coils)
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                      1994 80E Avant
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                      • avants2turbo
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1287
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EspenW
                        Check plugs and check resistance of the plug connectors (sits between plugs and coils)
                        how do i do this.. electrics isnt my forte....

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                        • merlin's S4
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1539
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by avants2turbo
                          how do i do this.. electrics isnt my forte....
                          Again that assumes you have standard coilpacks. You can check your plugs are in good condition and also make sure they're torqued down properly. I would check for boost leaks first!
                          '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                          • avants2turbo
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1287
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by merlin's S4
                            Again that assumes you have standard coilpacks. You can check your plugs are in good condition and also make sure they're torqued down properly. I would check for boost leaks first!
                            I had a boost leak test done a while ago, and when the hessitancy isnt there it feels as strong as it ever has, and I dont have standard coils, I have the Apikol kit which uses the A4 coils, modified with built in POS (see link in one of my previous posts above)

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                            • UrS4boy
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 11859
                              • Country: Canada

                              #15
                              Originally posted by avants2turbo
                              Im haveing some issues with the car when on boost, it seems to spool up ok but sometimes (3 outa 4 times) it doesnt boost smoothly, it like hesitates several times, with some like violant jerking... any ideas?
                              If you have checked your plugs and a boost leak test came up with nothing either you have a Waste gate spring that is too stiff (1.9 bar) or it is screwed down too tight (especially with the 1.9 bar spring) OR....you have a dead/dying 1.8t coil pack. At idle, pull the injectors one by one to see which cylinder least affects the smoothness of the idle (that will be your suspect coil pack). I had a weak 1.8t coil pack that survived for several months and only caused a problem at WOT sometimes. Finally it just flat out died. Much easier to find (injector trick above) and replace (note that the hard plastic and some of the rubber ring need to be trimmed on the replacement coil pack - use the dead coil pack as a template).
                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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