1.8T coils, what are they good for power wise?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • diesel des
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Feb 2004
    • 3896

    #1

    1.8T coils, what are they good for power wise?

    Ok I have the 034 motorsport coil packs but they look messy. I HATE plug wires. What power will a coil pack from a 1.8T support? 500hp?

    Is it just Apikol that sell them? Do they fit a UK car?

    Discover Apikol's top-tier performance parts and expert installs for Audi, VW, Porsche, and BMW. Upgrade with OEM parts and enjoy a 12-month warranty!



    Cheers,des.
  • merlin's S4
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2005
    • 1539
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Originally posted by diesel des
    Ok I have the 034 motorsport coil packs but they look messy. I HATE plug wires. What power will a coil pack from a 1.8T support? 500hp?

    Is it just Apikol that sell them? Do they fit a UK car?

    Discover Apikol's top-tier performance parts and expert installs for Audi, VW, Porsche, and BMW. Upgrade with OEM parts and enjoy a 12-month warranty!



    Cheers,des.
    Audiman used them!! So I guess that means 500 and something bhp!

    I thinkas long as you source the latest version of the 1.8t coils, then they're pretty good. I've not had any trouble since I got the latest versions from Vagparts and at £20ish each you can't really complain. However you must not run them under the existing coil cover as they don't like the heat! They will just fit using a 7A and possibly 3B cam cover if your that way inclined.

    The Apikol loom fits RHD cars but I would suggest that you're better off sourcing the coilpacks yourself. I made a loom myself and it's pretty straightforward if you don't mind taking the time. It's a lot cheaper that way too!!

    Another option is to use GM remote coils like some are trying on Audiworld. These are pretty cheap but you'll need HT leads as they're very similar to the 034 HO coilpacks.
    '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

    Comment

    • Knight Rider S4
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Mar 2005
      • 3541
      • Country: Scotland

      #3
      034 motorsport sell them but Apikol are better priced if i remember rightly ..Guy there is Brendan..good guy and great service

      Link to Audifans of a write up i did when fitting to S2 Avant
      93 S2 Avant Parting
      91 URQ RR
      02 A4 tdi Avant

      Comment

      • Flat on my back
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jan 2007
        • 2449
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        .

        Stick with the 034 coil packs...learn to live with the leads.

        If you sell them peeps will bite yur hand off...wonder why?

        I'm going LS2 coil packs and 4/500 bhp.
        Carlos.

        On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

        Comment

        • aronmatic2
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jan 2004
          • 2129
          • Country: Hungary

          #5
          i use this coil all of my cars. 400,500,600hp.
          no problem
          --------------------------------------------------------
          Real carbon parts for S2 and RS2. Check Carbondesign on facebook

          Comment

          • diesel des
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Feb 2004
            • 3896

            #6
            Think i might try them. I just hate mess and the coil leads are CRAP!

            I can always put them back on.

            Comment

            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              I'm with Des on this one - HT leads are the work of the devil... That 034 coilpack kit might be high performing, but it looks kak IMO... I'm no fan of the 1.8T coils by the way - they don't like the heat. I'd just go with new S2/RS2 coilpacks - sure they are expensive, but how often does highest quality come at the lowest price ?

              People freak out about them 'failing so often' - I attribute this to the originally fitted items coming to the end of their lifetime on these old cars. Mine are getting on for ~15yrs with over 140k miles and still working fine. If one or more start to play up, I shall not worry about the expensive of duplicate replacements - as they should give similar service. Fit and forget (for fifteen years anyway).


              Paul
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

              Comment

              • diesel des
                S2Forum Possessed
                • Feb 2004
                • 3896

                #8
                I no what you mean paul, its just the 1.8t units are so easy to change etc.

                Anyone have a link to where i can get the 1.8T conversion online? Havent heard from apikol yet??

                Cheers,des

                Comment

                • repo
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 893
                  • Country: Finland

                  #9
                  American 1.8T coilpacks are not the same they are here.

                  Also, there are at least Febi and some other manufacturer's, which' coils are not as good as genuine Bosch units.

                  To make things even more complicated, some coils from marble desk (audi dealer's spare desk) are not good. Even the part number doesn't prove a thing.

                  For 450ish hp / 550ish Nm all seem to work more or less, although the non-good ones don'e live too long.

                  Some particular batches from Bosch seem to work up to 800Nm.

                  I fried a couple of coils from customer's car at test runs last summer. They were the good bosch units, but died 'cause of a plug failure. Replaced plugs, and fried coils with cheap replacement units (do not remember the brand). Worked for 1st and second gear flat out, but started to shudder at third. Killed I think one or two so, that it worked on vacuum, but started to nod / stumble on boost, so I drove home with very gentle throttle.

                  Bought a set of Bosch ones of known good batch, which cured the issue, and car still runs daily, like a baby. 650ish hp / 800ish Nm with 2,4bar boost.
                  Everything less than 2 bar is considered to be naturally aspirated

                  Comment

                  • Knight Rider S4
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3541
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Originally posted by diesel des
                    I no what you mean paul, its just the 1.8t units are so easy to change etc.

                    Anyone have a link to where i can get the 1.8T conversion online? Havent heard from apikol yet??

                    Cheers,des

                    Direct email for Brendan at Apikol brendan@apikol.com
                    93 S2 Avant Parting
                    91 URQ RR
                    02 A4 tdi Avant

                    Comment

                    • zlobo
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 967
                      • Country: Sweden

                      #11
                      1.8t coils works fine so far over 700hp
                      ABT C5 Lord Of The Rings
                      2004 1/4 Mile ET 12.00 191Km/h @1,5Bar
                      2009 1/4 Mile ET 11.92 213Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437WHp
                      2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
                      kostic.nu

                      Comment

                      • diesel des
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3896

                        #12
                        Cheers guys! Any "special" part numbers to look for/stay away from?

                        Comment

                        • UrS4boy
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #13
                          Originally posted by diesel des
                          Cheers guys! Any "special" part numbers to look for/stay away from?
                          Stay away from new old stock that ends in 115H or 115 J. Minimum 115 L, preferably 115 R, possibly 115 S (the latest) if you can find them at a good price.

                          Bremi was the one with the original supply contract that had to redo thousands because of the failures and the recall. (Pre 115 H). Presumably they have the quality control/re-design under control. However, they still don't like a lot of heat, e.g. tracking the car will kill coils quickly.
                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

                          Comment

                          Working...