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  • luckyluke
    S2Forum Tinkerer
    • Dec 2008
    • 7
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    ABY ECU chips

    Hi all, i am new to this forum as i have just purchased my first S2 avant and im loving it! Ill be posting pics and specs soon but my first problem is that i have two chips for the car which i came with when i bought it but im not sure where they go. I have bought some plug connectors to solder in once ive removed the chips so that i can switch back to standard easily as im never sure about these generic chips.
    If any one can help me id be very appreciative.

    Thanks
  • tropical S2
    S2Forum Tinkerer
    • Nov 2008
    • 9
    • Country: Venezuela

    #2
    Chips (Not californian!)

    Hi there, and welcome!

    Pretty much a new meber myself, you may want to look at

    and then take it from there!

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    • Smiley
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jun 2005
      • 329
      • Country: Germany

      #3
      The Chips will go into the ECU which is located on the passenger side beyond the glove box (LHD). It's somewhat tricky to get it out (and in), and the chip replacement job has to be done careful! If not, the ECU may be blown for ever..

      IMHO you should first verify that your new lovemachine is in a somewhat perfect shape, no boost leaks, etc before you do the job. As I expect the chips to use higher boost level, new boost leaks may occur..

      '93 Audi S2 Avant panthero black, 412.000km
      '94 Audi S4 C4 Avant 303Tkm, KW, Brembos, BN-Pipes, Bose, S6 front (sold)
      '93 Audi S4 C4 Avant, 260Tkm
      '88 Audi 100 Avant turbo 44Q
      '84 Audi 80 quattro tornado red
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      • luckyluke
        S2Forum Tinkerer
        • Dec 2008
        • 7
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I have had the ECU out and opened it up but inside there are three chips soldered in and no clue as to which two i need to change, which is the motor and which is the turbo chip?

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        • Smiley
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jun 2005
          • 329
          • Country: Germany

          #5
          Look at

          Aren't they of different size 512/256K?
          '93 Audi S2 Avant panthero black, 412.000km
          '94 Audi S4 C4 Avant 303Tkm, KW, Brembos, BN-Pipes, Bose, S6 front (sold)
          '93 Audi S4 C4 Avant, 260Tkm
          '88 Audi 100 Avant turbo 44Q
          '84 Audi 80 quattro tornado red
          sigpic

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          • mark_s2
            Account Disabled
            • Jul 2006
            • 274
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #6
            IMHO unless you have the correct rework equipment this is a job that is best left to someone who know has. The potential to damage the board is high.

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              @luke - send me a PM if you want this done properly... I have a well proven generic upgrade for the ABY. Search for 'homefries' on here. Doesn't look like you've been around long. I personally wouldn't use any old 'ebay style' chipset - there are some horrendous ones out there. I do all the soldering work myself - I don't recommend that for you unless you really know what you are doing...

              These ECUs are rare and expensive to replace so proceed carefully. Do you know the source of the chips you have obtained.
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • luckyluke
                S2Forum Tinkerer
                • Dec 2008
                • 7
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Which chips do u recommend? I work in formula one so have arranged for a collegue of mine in electronics to do the fitment but i want to make sure its done right and its also differcult to send my ECU away as the car is my daily driver.

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #9
                  I recommend mine Products from MTM, ABT & MRC are good too of course.

                  Tested aplenty by many on here and pushing 410-430Nm and ~280bhp. on good fuel (98RON).. Even higher power than that with airbox & exhaust upgrades. Slightly better MPG than stock (if you can drive with a light foot). Retains all factory diagnostics and safety routines. Complete software only upgrade - no mechanical adjustments required.

                  I have a spare ECU available - its out on a prolonged job right now but if you can wait a week or two.
                  Paul Nugent
                  Webmaster http://S2central.net
                  Administrator http://S2forum.com

                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                  Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                  There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                  • luckyluke
                    S2Forum Tinkerer
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 7
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Sounds good, but think it will have to wait untill after xmas, credit crunch and all that! Also what would you recomend as the next step after chips for tuning, ive looked around and the inlet and exhaust manifolds look good but are they worth the cash as far as performance goes?

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                    • mark_s2
                      Account Disabled
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 274
                      • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                      #11
                      If you modify the IC sockets I would advise you to use turned pins items - only marginally more expensive but worth the extra IMHO.

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I'll happily vouch for Paul's handiwork. 297bhp/330ftlbs on a k24 speak for themselves IMO

                        Mods before a chip are a damned good service and check over:-
                        • Fully synth oil - 5W50 for daily use - 10W60 if you're going to be on track
                        • New plugs if you don't know when the ones in there were changed
                        • Check plugs are correct tightness and in good condition if you're on a budget
                        • Check coilpack boots and wiring condition whilst you're there
                        • Check DV and replace if necessary
                        • Boost leak test of all hoses including vac piping
                        • Full check of breather system


                        Power mods after a chip are:-
                        • Free flowing exhaust, ideally 3" from the turbo back
                        • Modified air box or RS2 item
                        • New air filter, paper or K&N if you believe in them or want more noise
                        • Samco boost hoses if your hoses are looking tired
                        • Upgraded DV if you want more noise
                        • Larger IC
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I'm determined to beat your 297 with my build next year Andy

                          you know what will do it? ..... some goooood head!!!
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • luckyluke
                            S2Forum Tinkerer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 7
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Well i took the plunge and had the guys at work fit my new chip holders and the chips. I know, I know, a bit risky with chips of unknown origin but figured people dont just make flippent chips for these kind of cars. Ive only driven 8 miles home from work this evening but the difference is instantly noticable. Tomorrow im going to fit a boost gauge and make sure its not over boosting and check the air fuel mixture then hopefully its game on!

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              Actually - some people do just make 'flippent chips' for these cars... The pop up on eBay occassionally - you could be lucky and landed something decent like MTM or ABT - but you are wise to check boost levels and AFR...
                              Paul Nugent
                              Webmaster http://S2central.net
                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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