Looking for S2 3B map or asap file

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  • Joresone
    S2Forum Tinkerer
    • Nov 2007
    • 4
    • Country: France

    #1

    Looking for S2 3B map or asap file

    Dear all,

    This is my first post on S2forum, and it won't be the last

    I am looking for the S2 3B ECU SW map file or asap file (a2l) to start working on a custom remap for my S2 3B project

    Does anyone have this file or any information on where I can get it?

    Also I don't know if it is possible to programm the ecu through K/L lines or if eeprom programming is the only solution. Does anyone know this?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Joresone
  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #2
    welcome

    are you saying that you want the "stock chips" from the S2 3b ECU??? for work remaping with them??
    RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
    BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
    LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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    • Joresone
      S2Forum Tinkerer
      • Nov 2007
      • 4
      • Country: France

      #3
      Thanks

      No no I still have the stock chips in my ECU anyway. If we can re-programm them directly through K/L connectors, I won't get new ones.

      The map file is the file that describes the adresses of all the variables and calibration data in the SW. Asap-file is a sort of more complete map file, with information like min/max values, calculations formulas, etc...

      I need this file to know where in the software I should make modification. For example I will have to change the maximum allowed boost pressure value, and to do that I need to know the adress of this data in the software.

      Do you get what I mean now?

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      • Rocco
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Aug 2007
        • 6393
        • Country: Spain

        #4
        yes of course,now i understund you much better

        aniway i can´t help you with it....

        maybe "s2central" (Paul) will can help you with chips,ECU,etc etc

        good luck
        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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        • M_GORDON
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Oct 2008
          • 1295
          • Home: Isle of Man Current: Vatican City State

          #5
          Remap the original chips?
          It´s possible?
          photobucket SUCKS
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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #6
            1 - You cannot remap 3B (or ABY) via OBD. The ECU does not support it...

            2 - People like me (and others) who have spent years (and non trivial amounts of money) unpicking the binary files to locate maps and understand how they interact are just NOT going to give that info away.
            Paul Nugent
            Webmaster http://S2central.net
            Administrator http://S2forum.com

            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              It's not possible to reprogram the S2 ecu's via OBD this functionality is for newer cars only.

              You need to burn new eproms.

              Changing the boost tables isn't as simple as changing one value, from what I know you have to modify the WGFV frequency table with new values.

              I do doubt you'll find what you are looking for on here as the people who know are in the mapping business and will not likely freely release the information.

              You could try contacting Bry as he was AFAIK dabbling with ECU readings.

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              • Joresone
                S2Forum Tinkerer
                • Nov 2007
                • 4
                • Country: France

                #8
                I know how calibration works... I am working in engine management.

                I understand that people who have spent years on trying to decode binaries will not give all their knowledge like this. But I think that people who got an adress map file by buying it or simply finding it on internet share their information more easily. It is probably not foundable for the S2

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #9
                  I've never found such a thing for sale or on share sites... If only life was that easy

                  Good luck - if you are working in this area professionally then maybe you need to chase up all the Bosch contacts you have - AFAIK - that is the only place you can purchase such info - and ONLY if you are a recognised professional tuning company.
                  Paul Nugent
                  Webmaster http://S2central.net
                  Administrator http://S2forum.com

                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                  Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                  There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                  • vcosmin
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 644
                    • Country: Romania

                    #10
                    3b only ?

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                    • Knight Rider S4
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 3541
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joresone
                      I know how calibration works... I am working in engine management.

                      I understand that people who have spent years on trying to decode binaries will not give all their knowledge like this. But I think that people who got an adress map file by buying it or simply finding it on internet share their information more easily. It is probably not foundable for the S2
                      If you find what you are looking for and its "free" please share on the site or PM me with details and i will make lots of money ha ha ha(dracula laugh!!)
                      93 S2 Avant Parting
                      91 URQ RR
                      02 A4 tdi Avant

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                      • dm80
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 812
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Knight Rider S4
                        If you find what you are looking for and its "free" please share on the site or PM me with details and i will make lots of money ha ha ha(dracula laugh!!)
                        Don't be stoopid. We already know you stay in ze ..bit jist aff Germany.

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                        • Joresone
                          S2Forum Tinkerer
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 4
                          • Country: France

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dm80
                          Don't be stoopid. We already know you stay in ze ..bit jist aff Germany.
                          ??

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                          • Knight Rider S4
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 3541
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #14
                            Its a scottish thing ....(trigger word for sheep shagging )
                            93 S2 Avant Parting
                            91 URQ RR
                            02 A4 tdi Avant

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S2central.net
                              I've never found such a thing for sale or on share sites... If only life was that easy

                              Good luck - if you are working in this area professionally then maybe you need to chase up all the Bosch contacts you have - AFAIK - that is the only place you can purchase such info - and ONLY if you are a recognised professional tuning company.
                              IIRC Mihnea said Bosch made it illegal to sell any such information regarding Motronics and the only information available was in German

                              I'll have to dig out his posts. This is why you don't have many have a go tuners in the Audi scene.

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