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  • Big Matt
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Nov 2005
    • 64
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Ignition problem ?

    Hi back with another problem.
    The other day the S2 decided to run on 4 cylinders as after some investigation we found I had no spark on no 2 .
    So we took a educated guess and changed the coil on no2 today.
    I now have no sparks on any cylinders , What could it be.
  • Sonic
    Administrator
    • Jul 2006
    • 5514
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #2
    POS (power output stage)... but it does seem odd that your not getting anything now that youve replaced the 2nd coil pack - are you sure its all rigged up correctly now youve replaced it?
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    • Big Matt
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      • Nov 2005
      • 64
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I cant see how I could go wrong I just installed the new coil on no 2 then cut into the loom and connected the 2 new wires to the corresponding ones in the loom ?

      It is very odd as it was running fine then down to 4 pots , fair enough coils break but to now go to no spark on a any cylinder , most strange

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      • Greg_S
        Administrator
        • Jul 2003
        • 12430
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        The coil connects into the power output stage (POS) there are two mounted against the bulkhead.
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        • Fat Audi 80
          Super Moderator
          • Jan 2004
          • 10547
          • Country: England

          #5
          Have you blown a fuse anywhere since you fitted the new one? (Just a thought)
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          • Big Matt
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            • Nov 2005
            • 64
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Greg / don't understand your comment about the POS as I slit the loom before that.

            Fat / any idea what fuse would have blown ?

            Cheers guys

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              Fuse 32
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              • Sonic
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                • Jul 2006
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                #8
                Originally posted by Big Matt
                Greg / don't understand your comment about the POS as I slit the loom before that.
                Greg was saying where the POS is located.

                The coils connect to the POS's mounted on the bulkhead - exactley as Greg said. It is very common for a coil to fail when a POS channel dies.
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                • Big Matt
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                  • Nov 2005
                  • 64
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Changed fuse 30 now running so a big thank you

                  After about 5 mins of listening to the glorious sound of the 5 she starts to run on 4 again . no2 not firing again, so I tapped the POSs and tried again and back to 5.
                  Which POS controls no 2 the one in the gutter part of the bulk head or the one that looks like a **** to get to

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    You are carrying a spare POS channel...

                    There's two x three channel POS on board. Search the forum for a sticky thread on this subject - I have documented it pretty well and linked out to other sites which provide the info you need.

                    You need to unplug the POS cables and tease back the insulation hood. Look at the 3-pin end... The one with 3 wires used is for cyls 1-2-3. Safe to say that #2 is dead...

                    On the other POS the 3-pin connector has only two used. Swap the POS units over if the cables don't reach... Then use a small tool to utilise the spare POS channel - you'll need to eject the pins on the 4-pin and 3-pin side of the POS and swap into the previously empty position.


                    Urgggh its a bit trickier to describe like this.... When you swap the POS units over without any wiring changes your problem plug will now be cyl #5 - so bring the spare channel into replace that - still with me ?
                    Paul Nugent
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                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                    • S2central.net
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
                      • Country: Northern Ireland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Big Matt
                      Changed fuse 30 now running so a big thank you

                      After about 5 mins of listening to the glorious sound of the 5 she starts to run on 4 again . no2 not firing again, so I tapped the POSs and tried again and back to 5.
                      Which POS controls no 2 the one in the gutter part of the bulk head or the one that looks like a **** to get to
                      PS - Fuse 30 has nothing to do with coils or ECU... I bet you counted wrong ... was it the far most right fuse on bottom row of fusebox ? If so thats 32 on an ABY.... But its 30 on the 3B - bonkers isn't it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      Paul Nugent
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                      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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