S2 Avant, non starter help required !!!!!

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  • Audi Parts Guru
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    S2 Avant, non starter help required !!!!!

    Gents, I've just gone to start my car and f***all is happening. Now the ingnition lights come on and i've tried to also start it with a Snap On battery booster, but she's just not turning over.

    Now I'm thinking it's one of two things...............

    1, ignition starter switch
    2, starter motor

    Any other ideas as to what it could be?
    S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    Starter inhibitor maybe flaky... will send you a PM.
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    • audiman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4827
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Starter motor by the sound of it. But........

      Check the main engine earth near the starter motor.
      Check you have 12V at the heavy duty cable on the starter motor all the time (check the lug of the motor not the cable itself)
      Check you have a 12v feed on the small cable on the starter motor when you try and crank the engine (may need a helper for this bit)
      If all this checks ok and the connection of the small wire on the motor is good then the motor is duff.

      If you have voltage problems then thats another story!
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      • Audi Parts Guru
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
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        • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

        #4
        Thanks for your replies guys....

        Fortunately the car broke down at a rather large Audi main dealer and so I should be able to get it on a ramp tomorrow. Oh and there's a couple of old school Audi guys there who used to work on S2's back in the day
        S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!

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        • nip
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          • Apr 2006
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          • Home: United Kingdom Current: Abu Dhabi

          #5
          Originally posted by Audi Parts Guru
          Gents, I've just gone to start my car and f***all is happening. Now the ingnition lights come on and i've tried to also start it with a Snap On battery booster, but she's just not turning over.

          Now I'm thinking it's one of two things...............

          1, ignition starter switch
          2, starter motor

          Any other ideas as to what it could be?
          ignition swith on the barrel

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          • audiman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jul 2003
            • 4827
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by Audi Parts Guru
            Thanks for your replies guys....

            Fortunately the car broke down at a rather large Audi main dealer and so I should be able to get it on a ramp tomorrow. Oh and there's a couple of old school Audi guys there who used to work on S2's back in the day
            Is this a good or bad thing?? Large main dealer - and mechanics that havent seen an S2 in 10-14 years! LOL
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            • Audi Parts Guru
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
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              • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              It's a good thing in my case Tom as I happen to work there. Oh and the guy who usually helps me with my car is one of the best Audi mechanics I've ever seen
              S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!

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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                Well the ignition switch is dead easy to root cause - just bypass it with the right jumpers into the multi-pin plug... need to know what pins though <cough>.

                Oh and a PM winging its way to you Mr Guru.
                Paul Nugent
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                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                • audiman
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4827
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Thats lucky for you then Glad to hear that some Audi dealers can still carry out good work on cars, esp. older stuff like the S2. My local dealer would have NO IDEA what to do/where to start if you droppped off an S/RS2! I only ever used them for 4 wheel alignment and i have stopped letting them do that now!
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                  • 220bhp
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                    • Nov 2004
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                    • Home: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    This happened to me twice ,first time ignition switch broken inside the barrel, plastic bit wares inside ,it will turn the ignition on but wont engage the starter,to fix it you have to replace the barrel, about £60.
                    The unfortunate thing is it means a different key for the ignition or more money to use the same key,and as all the keys look the same believe me this is a pain in the dark or when you are in a hurry,you always insert the wrong key.
                    Second time it was the small wire on top of the starting motor, its a spade fitting and can work loose. If it is this you must connect it to the right male connection as for some unknown reason there are two, if it is the cause then no damage will be done putting it on the wrong one ,it simply wont start so try the other.

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                    • Audi Parts Guru
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1317
                      • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 220bhp
                      This happened to me twice ,first time ignition switch broken inside the barrel, plastic bit wares inside ,it will turn the ignition on but wont engage the starter,to fix it you have to replace the barrel, about £60.
                      The unfortunate thing is it means a different key for the ignition or more money to use the same key,and as all the keys look the same believe me this is a pain in the dark or when you are in a hurry,you always insert the wrong key.
                      Second time it was the small wire on top of the starting motor, its a spade fitting and can work loose. If it is this you must connect it to the right male connection as for some unknown reason there are two, if it is the cause then no damage will be done putting it on the wrong one ,it simply wont start so try the other.
                      Well after a quick look with one of the guys from work, it looks like the ignition starter switch might be the cause, and fortunately this is available separately from the barrel. Cost should be around the £25 mark.
                      S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!

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                      • Audi Parts Guru
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1317
                        • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Well I've now changed the ignition switch as everything seemed to be pointing to this and sure enough there was a large crack just where it plugs in to the back of the ignition barrel. So problem solved, or so I thought.............................

                        Then last night I went to start it again and hey presto, nothing. Ignition lights come on but she just doesn't turn over. So I'm now thinking that the aftermarket immobiliser is playing up. Any other thoughts gents?
                        S2 Avant......fully loaded :rock: :bow: Slipper Wagons Rule !!!!!

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          I'd say check factory fitted anti-theft first of all. PM if you want help on how to do that...
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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