Definition of "lag" and "spool up"

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  • repo
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Dec 2004
    • 893
    • Country: Finland

    #1

    Definition of "lag" and "spool up"

    Please post here how You personally define lag and spool up.

    I am sure we will never find uniformity to the terms, but let's see what seems to be the trend.
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  • dest
    S2Forum Freak
    • Feb 2006
    • 4287
    • Country: England

    #2
    For me personally, lag is the time between flooring the pedal and it coming onto full boost.
    Spool up is the time between the turbo starting to spin and getting to full speed.
    No doubt everyone will have their own different ones!

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Lag / Spool - The time taken from the application of WOT to the attainment of full turbo boost.

      There is also the RPM after which the engine is capable of producing full boost. In the real world this varies for each gear and load condition, not sure on what to call this, sometimes it's referred to as the above terms, perhaps 'boost threshold' is a better term.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • GazzaG60
        S2Forum Freak
        • Mar 2007
        • 4133
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        interesting this repo. certainly a different topic starter, i like.

        dest said it well but lag for me is either what dest said combined with the brain contemplating do i drop it to second or do i let that car pull a car or 2.

        spool would be time between the time between the start of coming on boost to hitting the desired level. not very long really.

        for example short shifting brings a spool time whereas dumping at 2k and waiting brings lag

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Lag = From applying throttle ( typically WOT ) the time taken for noticeable acceleration of the car forward in relation to the production of turbo boost and gear used.
          Spool = The time taken for a turbo to reach a desired boost level typically measured against engine RPM
          Last edited by Jamo; 28 August 2009, 10:51. Reason: spelling

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #6
            I'm with Jamo's definition here - I definitely see lag and spool as different things.
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            • kritis17
              S2Forum Fanatic
              • Aug 2007
              • 53
              • Country: Greece

              #7
              LAG: is a few steps before heaven.

              SPOOL: is how fast you are going up these steps!!!

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              • dest
                S2Forum Freak
                • Feb 2006
                • 4287
                • Country: England

                #8
                Jamo seemed to say the same as me, but worded better

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dest
                  Jamo seemed to say the same as me, but worded better
                  Rare I know

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                  • lind4hl
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2465
                    • Country: Sweden

                    #10
                    +1 for Jamo!

                    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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                    • dest
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 4287
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Of course this is an extreme example, but demonstrates it well!

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                      • Bram
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2582
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #12
                        I think Jamo describes it how I see it as well.

                        And this is how Scooby drivers define anti-lag:


                        pffffffff........
                        Last edited by Bram; 28 August 2009, 12:49.

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                        • terrybullwon
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 8782
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Two of the same?
                          I would say its the time taken for the exhaust gases driving the turbine to come to a higher enough pressure to drive the turbine to overcome its rotational inerta and reach the speed necessary to supply +/boost. So the lag or the "spool" you wait for is the turbine to reach a effective velocity.
                          Chef

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                          • aronmatic2
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2129
                            • Country: Hungary

                            #14
                            lag: bad thing
                            medicine: small turbo, als

                            spool: good thing, if fast
                            medicine: small turbo, turned exhaust cam

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                            • A80Avant
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 10873
                              • Country: Greece

                              #15
                              blablabla...

                              everyone who cares about lag really needs to know what is the earliest rpm the full boost is achieved. Terminology is for those who just want to sound important. Euphism if you may...

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