difference between 3B and 7a engine ?

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  • fluk3
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Mar 2008
    • 146
    • Home: Denmark

    #1

    difference between 3B and 7a engine ?

    anyone know what the difference is between s2 2.2 3b 20v turbo engine and a 2.3 20v 7A engine beyond the cams?

    I think of rots, pistons, bearings, etc.

    Best regards Christian Bogh
  • GazzaG60
    S2Forum Freak
    • Mar 2007
    • 4133
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    cams
    pistons
    bore
    head water rail.
    head gasket
    cam cover.

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    • fluk3
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Mar 2008
      • 146
      • Home: Denmark

      #3
      hei

      hmm so there is little difference between the 2
      i would like to build a 450 to 500 hp engine so should just use block and top and camshafts


      and must buy new rots, pistons, ect. anyway

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      • fluk3
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Mar 2008
        • 146
        • Home: Denmark

        #4
        excuse my bad english google translate

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        • spink
          S2Forum Freak
          • Jul 2003
          • 4382
          • Country: England

          #5
          exhaust valves also

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          • LHD_Kid
            S2Forum Possessed
            • May 2006
            • 3695
            • Home: England Current: Belgium

            #6
            Originally posted by fluk3
            hmm so there is little difference between the 2
            i would like to build a 450 to 500 hp engine so should just use block and top and camshafts


            and must buy new rots, pistons, ect. anyway
            I don't think I would be building a 450+BHP engine using standard 3B bearings either... even if they are same 7a and 3B
            Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
            S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
            '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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            • nemilosu
              S2Forum Enthusiast
              • Nov 2008
              • 196
              • Country: Romania

              #7
              cylinder block, don't have the oil spray jet.

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              • fluk3
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Mar 2008
                • 146
                • Home: Denmark

                #8
                yes of course the oil spray jet. and the exhaust valves.

                so I can really only use the cams from the 7a engine

                I also plan to buy bearings

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                • driftin jo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2222
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  There is a few more things , some of them obvious

                  oil pump
                  turbo oil return hole
                  oil filter assembly for oil feed to turbo and oil cooler
                  turbo water port in core plug hole
                  inlet manifold / throttle body
                  exhaust manifold / turbo / waste gate / downpipe
                  ecu / injectors / all engine sensors /

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                  • Flat on my back
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2449
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    .

                    Originally posted by nemilosu
                    cylinder block, don't have the oil spray jet.
                    Funny that, how come i removed 2 sets of 'oil squiters' from my 7A blocks?

                    Pics in my project thread...

                    P.S. Whats the oil pump difference?
                    Carlos.

                    On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                    • 4WheelDrifter
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 5773
                      • Country: Devon

                      #11
                      Cylinder block and head can be used with minor alterations. Cylinder bore is the only major obstacle, but custom/oversize pistons can overcome that.
                      Crank, sump, oil pump, oil squirters and all head contents are the same, apart from the cams and the exhaust valves' lack of sodium, as noted above.

                      I bought a 7A engine to plunder for many parts for my build. It can be a cheap way to get lots of good parts.
                      SS

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nemilosu
                        cylinder block, don't have the oil spray jet.
                        deja vu, why do people keep saying that?

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                        • kwlw
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 1025
                          • Country: Lithuania

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jamo
                          deja vu, why do people keep saying that?
                          They say 7A, but maybe still keep old KV in mind .

                          Sau
                          200 20vt 88' 3b, human carrier
                          CQ typ85 with AAN inside, see project blog at http://kwlw.blogspot.com

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                          • driftin jo
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2222
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Flat on my back
                            Funny that, how come i removed 2 sets of 'oil squiters' from my 7A blocks?

                            Pics in my project thread...

                            P.S. Whats the oil pump difference?
                            Sorry ,yes the 7a and 3b have the same oil pump , it's the ABY that has the higher capacity pump .

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                            • nemilosu
                              S2Forum Enthusiast
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 196
                              • Country: Romania

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Flat on my back
                              Funny that, how come i removed 2 sets of 'oil squiters' from my 7A blocks?

                              Pics in my project thread...

                              P.S. Whats the oil pump difference?
                              yes. right. my bad.

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