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  • Jonnybravo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Aug 2008
    • 2051
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Read further on now, sounds quite a serious spec !

    If MRC can do Motec then get it checked over as you can have the spec in the world but if the guy mapping it isn't sure what he's doing then that may be your problem.

    Plenty of people can map Motec though, where in the country are you ?

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #17
      Hmmm.... if the cams are made to give top end power (much like the 7A exhaust cam), it may be quite unresponsive at the low end and then give out all the power, eg. after 4500 rpm.

      When do you hit the top boost?

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      • GazzaG60
        S2Forum Freak
        • Mar 2007
        • 4133
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        to get that punch back in it and 400-450hp id say the turbo is on the large side.

        standard aby cams give better punch than 7a at that level IMO

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        • G60Rallye
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Dec 2006
          • 1321
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          I take it this is the engine in the S1 Gary? Like has already been said if you are happy with 450-500 then a gt35r is a bit wasted there. You would be better off with a gt30 at that power level. The compression seems a little on the high side if you are only going to be using super unleaded. If you run it on race fuel then its about right. To get more responce out of it I would take it for some mapping looking at the cam and ignition timing.

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          • JP
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Mar 2007
            • 1858
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Oversized valves are only of use if the correct port work up has been done otherwise it can be a negative effect. As for the statement regarding redtop valves yes they are pants once you get to the high end of the EGT range.

            As a ball park reference for desired powerband.

            Proper headwork with stock valves and valvetrain, h-beam rods, stock pistons, stacked headgasket (8.7:1 compression ratio), standard AAN exhaust mani and GT30R with 3" system sports cat and 2 box's, stock airbox and MAF setup at 0.96bar base running in map made 420hp and 410ft/lb on the SRS audi south dyno day at surrey rolling roads.

            Whereas on the same day another AAN with 3071 turbo on stock head with RS2 mani made 410hp @ 1.4bar

            So looking at your power figs the low torque will be from the late spool of too big a turbo and the low hp is either from incorrect headwork (I've seen professionally ported heads flowing less than stock). Or incorrect mapping.
            UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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            • GazzaG60
              S2Forum Freak
              • Mar 2007
              • 4133
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              that aan ex manifold will end up killing the engine. didn't even think they would make that much hp.

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              • JP
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Mar 2007
                • 1858
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                ^^ it was all the line of an experiment, tweaked the collector of the manifold getting rid of hotspots, once it was turned up to 1.4bar the car kept up with a 447hp (dyno'd same day) passat with 2.7t and a6 quattro running gear.
                But this lasted approx 1 day before the compressor oil seals let go, diagnosed as the stock MAF airfilter box setup physically not allowing enough air into the turbo for it's requirement so instead of sealing under pressure it physically drew the oil out the centre cartridge from suction under boost trying to get air from wherever it could.
                One turbo rebuild after less than a 1000 miles and a wagner direct replacement exhaust mani, relocated MAF and mushroom airfilter later, just awaiting a live map this month.
                UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                • Audi_CQ
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 940
                  • Country: Norway

                  #23
                  I'm running 2.5 stroker. Ported head with 0.5mm oversize valves. Mech cams with 254deg duration@ 0.1mm and 226@ 1mm lift. T66 turbo and running E85 fuel. 584hp and 520lbs/ft @wheels (mustang dyno) with 1.8bar boost.

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                  • Puglife
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 731
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24


                    Garys engine.....
                    Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

                    1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
                    1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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                    • Audi_CQ
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 940
                      • Country: Norway

                      #25
                      A lot of rare and expensive parts in that picture

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                      • garym
                        S2Forum Enthusiast
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 106
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        big power engine

                        just been informed i was mislead and i have a gtr30 turbo with (special bearings ) for the heat , engine still pants

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                        • Bram
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2582
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Audi_CQ
                          I'm running 2.5 stroker. Ported head with 0.5mm oversize valves. Mech cams with 254deg duration@ 0.1mm and 226@ 1mm lift. T66 turbo and running E85 fuel. 584hp and 520lbs/ft @wheels (mustang dyno) with 1.8bar boost.
                          Do you have any action videos of that car of yours?

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                          • garym
                            S2Forum Enthusiast
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 106
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            big power engine

                            hope this works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KDnWAV2xSc

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Originally posted by garym
                              just been informed i was mislead and i have a gtr30 turbo with (special bearings ) for the heat , engine still pants
                              GT30r is a name that refers to a group of turbos, you need to know the exhaust sizing i.e is it a 3071r, 3076r or 3082r?

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                              • Audi_CQ
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 940
                                • Country: Norway

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bram
                                Do you have any action videos of that car of yours?
                                Old video from 2007 running 98 and 1.7bar boost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb9U6bI4QGs

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