How to spot 1 (or more) out of 20 cam followers faulty?

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  • Martynf
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1885
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    How to spot 1 (or more) out of 20 cam followers faulty?

    Now I am a bit baffled.....

    I KNOW I have 'some' failing camshaft followers, but I can't tell which ones are lame?? it aint that obvious!!

    Car from cold is nice n quiet, drive her for 10-15 minutes and my lord, it sounds terrible!! I'm embarrassed to drive her!!

    I've got her stripped right now, if I turn the crank by hand so the cam lobes are vertical, then using a blunt rigid plastic probe I try to push down on each follower in turn, I cannot spot any 'lame' followers!! every follower feels solid to me!! I cannot push any of the 20 followers down, not by one 0.0001 mm!! they are all solid.

    I'm sure I dont HAVE to remove the cams to check the followers (as with the lobes vertical they don't touch the followers) , but it looks like I will have too to be completely sure..

    Anyone any comments?

    Removing the cams and having to reset everything afterwards is not something I want to do unless I have to!!

    Ideas?? any BTDT's??
    Cheers!
    Martyn
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  • Mark Halligan
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2003
    • 2001
    • Country: England

    #2
    Originally posted by Martynf
    Ideas?? any BTDT's??
    Cheers!
    Martyn, yep I changed all twenty of them .

    Sorry mate, I couldn't resist that .

    Cheers,

    Mark.
    Mark - Modded

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    • sal_s2
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1287
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by Mark Halligan
      Martyn, yep I changed all twenty of them .

      Sorry mate, I couldn't resist that .

      Cheers,

      Mark.
      So did I

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      • Martynf
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1885
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Why thanks guys, I knew I could depend on your professional opinions
        Martyn
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        • Beetie
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Oct 2003
          • 1517
          • Country: England

          #5
          To be honest as a mechie and all that, i'd change all 20 as well, just to be on the safe side, and make sure the jobs done proper....
          Im sure u can afford all 20 now ive got my credit card out....
          Was a '93 3B, Dont ask now tho......

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          • audiman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Jul 2003
            • 4827
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Just change all 20 you tight git. If you gonna do a job, make sure you do it the right way!!!
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            • Beetie
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Oct 2003
              • 1517
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by audiman
              Just change all 20 you tight git. If you gonna do a job, make sure you do it the right way!!!
              Aint that true!
              Was a '93 3B, Dont ask now tho......

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              • Graham
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jul 2003
                • 1622
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: Australia

                #8
                I changed all 20 even though 2 were giving me problems, its the expensive way i know but it saves pulling her apart again in 3 weeks time when another one decides to go on a wobbler.
                Graham
                Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.--:Albert Einstein

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                • Vagsport
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 533
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  Change ALL 20 of them AND put the old ones in the bin! That way you don't get tempted to used them again

                  Siena

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                  • Doug_RS2
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3847
                    • Home: Scotland Current: England

                    #10
                    I never changed mine and it doesn't tick. It did tick with the oil level a bit low and after a thrash - I just keep the oil on the top level and use a decent thick oil - maybe you should try something differnet to the synta silver Martyn?
                    S2,RS2,S4 WB,RS4,S4 B8,RS6 C5,RS6 C6,R8

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                    • audiman
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4827
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Im not gonna be changing mine, they do also tick after trackdays etc and after a good rant.
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                      Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                      Audi UR Quattro
                      Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                      Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                      Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        Martyn - I would try her with Castrol-R 10w/60 then see how that sounds. Perhaps a quick dose of engine flush before hand will help rid old oil, but I understand your concerns if you don't believe in engine flush.

                        Gotta agree with the conventional wisdom on changing them though - all or nuthin'


                        Paul
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                        • Martynf
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1885
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          shoot, the funds for the mods are getting smaller by the second
                          Martyn
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