Can I change this without draining the oil?

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  • WidowmakerS2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Oct 2007
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    • Current: Norway

    #1

    Can I change this without draining the oil?

    Okay, with the engine running okay, I've noticed a bit of a drip from the large screw that goes through the oil filter housing. Seems it is a gasket missing or something. Should it be a copper washer on that one?

    Will i be able to unscrew it, fit a washer and get it back together without draining it completely?
    If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

    -CQ 3b "S2".
  • Flat on my back
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jan 2007
    • 2449
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
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    Think there should be an 'o' ring on the bolt.

    Shoudn't lose too much but be quick, you'll need a 'large thumb' to cover the hole and hold the housing while your assistant fits/checks the bolt for the 'o' ring.

    Carlos.

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    • WidowmakerS2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Oct 2007
      • 354
      • Current: Norway

      #3
      Hmm, if the O-ring is supposed to go on the outside of the oil filter housing, I might be able to slip the O-ring over the head of the screw without unscrewing it totally.
      If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

      -CQ 3b "S2".

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      • WidowmakerS2
        S2Forum Addict
        • Oct 2007
        • 354
        • Current: Norway

        #4
        Does anyne know what kind of torque this screw needs? I changed the O-ring a while back, but now it has snapped of, leaving me with 2 liters of oil on the floor.
        If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

        -CQ 3b "S2".

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Not sure what you are talking about. Is it anything in this AAN photo?:

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by Flat on my back
            Think there should be an 'o' ring on the bolt.

            Shoudn't lose too much but be quick, you'll need a 'large thumb' to cover the hole and hold the housing while your assistant fits/checks the bolt for the 'o' ring.

            Yep there should be an o-ring on the bolt, I wouldn't fancy changing that with the engine full of oil mind, Lucky for me I noticed during my engine build I hadn't got a new one and replaced it before startup.

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              do you mean the big bolt that attaches the oil thermostat housing?
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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Yeah but I just read he snapped the bolt??? whoa

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                • Acidburn
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                  • Jun 2007
                  • 13459
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  Yeah but I just read he snapped the bolt??? whoa
                  not good

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                  • WidowmakerS2
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 354
                    • Current: Norway

                    #10
                    Lol, I've been away for a while now and all this is interesting reading

                    The bolt itself hasnt snapped, the little o-ring has. This happened after changing to a new one the same day. I'm guessing i either over-torqued it or it wasnt sitting right when i tightened it.

                    It is the big bolt with the 27mm head that is partly covered by the oil cooler hoses on urs4's picture.

                    Anyways.. I've bought some new oil, going to do a full oil change and change the o-ring again.
                    If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

                    -CQ 3b "S2".

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                    • JP
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      The o ring sits on the shaft not below the head of the bolt.
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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I have one on the bench in the garage if as pic would help?
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                        • WidowmakerS2
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                          • Oct 2007
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                          #13
                          Yup, think that would def help.
                          If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

                          -CQ 3b "S2".

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                          • WidowmakerS2
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 354
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                            #14
                            Im really baffled now.
                            I was pretty sure that the O-ring was the likely culprit, so I got one at the local dealer today. With the O-ring in the right place it didn't drip anything.
                            I took the car out for a quick spin (1,5 km tops), got back and checked again.
                            IT F*** LEAKS STILL. And in that, I lost 2liters of oil on my little trip, evenly distributed in a line of drips that i could easily follow with the other car. I could see it dripping from the head of the bolt.

                            Any ideas?
                            If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

                            -CQ 3b "S2".

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                            • AndyP
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                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
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                              #15
                              2 litres in 1.5km sounds like a lot more than a drip to me! If your sure that where it's coming from you could try putting a copper washer under the bolt head to seal it to the filter housing.
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