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What is the difference between a Forge FMIC of around £600, and one of a similar size that doesn't have a well know name for around £150
The reason i ask is for my 1.8t project in my coupe. Im hoping to see around 230-250hp.
Any light that can be shed on the matter will be much appreciated.
I think you've answered your own question,paying for brand name to a point,as well as the fact that some of the cheaper offerings are not as pretty to look at (weld wise).
Theres plenty of people using £100 ebay jobbies on here without issue.HTH
It's a love/hate relationship with the S2,i love it,it hates me
Its not really going to be an issue with the power level that you are looking at, but a higher quality ic typically has more internal fins and better weld quality than the cheap ones.
That said, a cheap one will work just fine for you. They hold pressure well and do the job. Cxracing.com and siliconeintakes.com are sources for some of the cheap ones. They aren't terrible. The cxracing ones are much cheaper on ebay though, and they will provide some actually pretty good quality piping kits if you look around.
Fit and finish usually. Generic ones will require some work to fit and the inlet/outlet pipes might require alteration also. Plus, there's usually no customer support to speak of. That said, if you're remotely savvy then you don't need to worry about most of this...
Cheers'en, AndyC
1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss
There is two types of intercooler tube and fin and bar and plate ones. The bar and plate ones are more efficient in cooling and are cheaper to buy but weigh more than the tube and fin ones. The ones you buy from a reputable manufacturer have brand name attached to it as well as custom tanks for your specific application. Cheap mass produced ebay jobies have universal cast end tanks so are cheaper to produce but may require more fettling to fit in fixtures and pipework. I personally run a £65 ebay intercooler with 63mm in and out with a 300x450x75 core and am seeing in excess of 500hp so for your application if you can make it fit cheap all the way
Depending on how serious you get with spending, some of the big names have their own alloys which are better at heat rejection than cheaper materials ....the cores for the motorsport coolers I remember would frequently top a grand each or more before any fabrication of end tanks took place (and that's for relatively normal flat rectangular cores, nothing super trick) ....the advantages of greater heat rejection without enormous size, internal volume and weight are all worthy considerations in those circumstances.
As with any performance modification, you've got to look at what's going to give you the best value for the modification - clearly, spending vast sums to make a small gain are not worthwhile unless money really is no object to you. But in fairness the best cores tend to be lighter and offer greater heat rejection.
Martin Cutting
aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"
It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.
I follow the Porsche 996TT and 997TT world pretty closely, and they are very good at testing and generating data from testing on the street. What they see is that many super expensive aftermarket IC's actually do a worse job than the stock items. Someting to keep in mind.
Check your IATs vs ambient and check pressure loss over the IC.
1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
1994 80E Avant
1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol
Has anyone already done some real world testing? On the 5 cyl.?
I am a believer in test data to back up manufacturers claims, however very few companies seem to offer this.
Where would you get the gauges / sensors to measure these values accurately? Wouldn't want them in the dash, just a rig to test with and then remove afterwards.
I have been hearing very good things about the garrett intercooler cores from the Evo and cosworth world. I have one on route at the moment for my build so hopefully its as good as its made out to be!
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