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  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #1

    RS2 speed in different gears

    Anyone has this info?

    i need the speed of an rs2 with ADU cams on 5000rpm on each gear. If any of this info is available please let me know!
    thanks
    vasilis
  • Error404
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Engine components make no difference.

    From workshop manual the calculation is this:

    V = (n / iov) x (ua x 0.06)

    v = speed
    n = engine speed
    iov = overall drive ratio (gear ratio x final drive ratio)
    ua = rolling circumferance of tyre
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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #3
      well what are the proper values then?

      i have : ua=629mm
      gear ratios already known
      engine speed: 5000rpm

      example: 1st gear:

      V= (5000/3.5x0.71) x 629x0.06=38494

      obviously the circumference needs to be in m? cm?

      gear ratio x final drive ? final drive being the 6th gear?

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      • A80Avant
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        • Sep 2005
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        • Country: Greece

        #4
        im not doing something right, cause if i use m for circomference, it seems ok for 1st gear but it brings me to 140km for 2nd gear and 201km for 3d gear at 5000rpm, which is not correct

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        • A80Avant
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Sep 2005
          • 10873
          • Country: Greece

          #5
          oops!
          wrong calculation for final drive!

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #6
            using the correct final drive, values are too small again, so im either doing it wrong(likely) or there something else..

            here are the gear ratios

            http://www.s-cars.org/postnuke/modul...rder=0&thold=0

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              circumferance needs to be in Meters
              Looks like you are using diamter in mm @ 629 which is 1.98m circumference.

              so you have:
              1st 5000/14.8 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 40km/h
              2nd 5000/7.77 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 76km/h
              3rd 5000/5.43 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 109km/h
              4th 5000/4.23 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 140km/h
              5th 5000/3.53 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 168km/h
              6th 5000/2.92 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 203km/h
              R 5000/14.2 x 1.98 x 0.06 = 42km/h
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              • A80Avant
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                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #8
                aaaah yes.

                629mm is my tyre-wheel diameter.

                hmm it seems a bit low to be 203 only in 6th gear 5000rpm... can i go from 5000rpm to 6500rpm on my car from 203 to 280km?

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  6500rpm in 6th is 264 km/h - 280km/h is 6880rpm

                  7200rpm in 6th is 293km/h

                  so it is all about right. Speedos in cars tend to over-read by 5-10%
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                  • driftin jo
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2222
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    judging by the diameter of tire you have given (629mm) I take it you are using a 215/40/18 ?

                    The reason I say is this is slightly less than the stock tire diameter of (632mm) for a 205/55/16.

                    The thing is that with the stock tire the speedo reads too fast by about 5mph / 8 kph .
                    The tire you are using will increase this error even more .
                    I have a satellite speed device that is guaranteed to .5 mph and my S2 speedo over reads by 2.5 mph and I run 225/40/18 (637.2mm) diameter.


                    So unfortunately this means your not going as fast as you think .

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      AFAIK he's running 245/35 18s
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                      • driftin jo
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                        • Sep 2007
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Error404
                        AFAIK he's running 245/35 18s
                        Even worse then as 245/35/18 is (628.7 mm)

                        just a little

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          so a 235/40 18 would read just about spot on then I guess
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                          • driftin jo
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                            • Sep 2007
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Error404
                            so a 235/40 18 would read just about spot on then I guess
                            yes , speedo would be good with this size . probably read about 1 mph over , Close enough

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                            • A80Avant
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Sep 2005
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                              #15
                              yes, that is what i use, 245/35/18 so its very close to 629. i think a couple of tyre calculators bring it up at around 628+ so no big difference.

                              Good info Error, all vems users with a speed sensor can now use this calculation!

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