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  • Benquattro
    S2Forum Buff
    • Oct 2008
    • 41
    • Country: Belgium

    #1

    Engine dies after full throttle

    My 3B -> RS2 engine dies whenever I make the turbo come in, at full throttle etc.

    Anybody had this problem before? Is there a trick? I turned the throttle valve damper out to the maximum, just before the idle switch switches, but no succes.
  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #2
    check the ignition sistem and the wastegate....
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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #3
      Check the ISV valve. Maybe it somehow stucks. the damper does not affect the ISV position inside.
      Go Holset or Go RS4

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      • Benquattro
        S2Forum Buff
        • Oct 2008
        • 41
        • Country: Belgium

        #4
        The ISV is ok, tested it.
        Could it be because I am running a KKK K26/27/29 #8 instead of the regular RS2 turbo?
        And is there a way other than remapping to get past this?

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #5
          What exactly do you mean by "engine dies"?
          Does it stall?

          Or do you just mean fuel cut?
          If you have a fuel cut, the only way is to remap...

          Are you running a BOV by any chance? Venting to atmosphere?
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          • Billman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Nov 2004
            • 4129

            #6
            Originally posted by Benquattro
            The ISV is ok, tested it.
            Could it be because I am running a KKK K26/27/29 #8 instead of the regular RS2 turbo?
            And is there a way other than remapping to get past this?
            How do you tested the isv? I had one that stuck only after longer non idle periods like in the highway.

            The turbo has nothing to do with it.
            Go Holset or Go RS4

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            • Benquattro
              S2Forum Buff
              • Oct 2008
              • 41
              • Country: Belgium

              #7
              We had the engine running without the inlet pipe and could see the isv trying to regulate the engine.
              Also the engine's idle is very good. The problem is; (only) when I let the turbo spool or hit the throttle hard and let loose it just stops running.
              I 'm not venting to atmosphere.
              Last edited by Benquattro; 8 November 2010, 13:07.

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              • JP
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Mar 2007
                • 1858
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Sounds like you are going lean and not getting enough fuel.
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                • Nik0las
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1345
                  • Country: Bulgaria

                  #9
                  yes what is you fuel PUMP?

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                  • Benquattro
                    S2Forum Buff
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 41
                    • Country: Belgium

                    #10
                    bosch 044 pump with white injectors.
                    I have installed a wideband lambda, but the display is not installed yet.

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                    • EspenW
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1534
                      • Country: Norway

                      #11
                      So the engine dies when rolling into intersections, roundabouts, etc?
                      Classic problem, unfortunately.
                      1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                      1994 80E Avant
                      1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                      • Benquattro
                        S2Forum Buff
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 41
                        • Country: Belgium

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EspenW
                        So the engine dies when rolling into intersections, roundabouts, etc?
                        Classic problem, unfortunately.

                        exactly, is there an answer to this problem?

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                        • EspenW
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1534
                          • Country: Norway

                          #13
                          It is a very common problem that nobody has managed to solve (strangely, enough). On mine, it happens more often at high fuel pressure (I have an adjustable FPR), so I suspect that the engine momentarily runs too rich when the throttle closes, however, my wideband doesn't indicate AFR out of the ordinary when it happens.
                          Mr.Billman mentions above that it often happens after long periods of the highway, and mine kind of does the same.
                          You can pull the ISV, clean and lube it and see if that helps. Some folks have had luck by replacing the ISV, but for others, the problem has persisted with a new ISV.
                          1995 RS2 on Alcohol (6.8sec 100-200km/h)
                          1994 80E Avant
                          1986 2L Golf 2 on Alcohol

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                          • prj
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6308
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #14
                            Try a different MAF first.
                            On Motronic a faulty MAF will cause exactly this... it is what happened to my car before the MAF went completely.

                            If possible just lend someone's MAF, takes very little time to swap...
                            It is not 100%, that it is caused by the MAF, so don't rush buying a new one before you try with another MAF.
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                            • Benquattro
                              S2Forum Buff
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 41
                              • Country: Belgium

                              #15
                              I've allready cleaned the isv, so that's that.
                              I'll try lowering the fuel pressure when the lambda display is connected.
                              Thanks

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