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  • Kieron20V
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Mar 2008
    • 1505
    • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

    #1

    V8 Timing Belt tools

    Eyup,

    I know there's a few guys on here who have acquired 4.2 ABZ engines to fit into their cars, just wondering if anyone has bought the correct audi tooling for changing the timing belt?

    I've got the tool numbers needed, 2076, 3341, 3197, and 3036.

    Theres a guy on ebay.de selling all the above, but it comes to the best part of £250.

    Just the 3341 and 3197 would probably be enough, the tools for locking the cams and the crank pulley.

    If anyone has them would it be possible to borrow them for a short time, or if anyone with an ABZ is wanting to change their belt we could possible share the cost?


    Ta,
    Kieron.
    1994 URS4 Avant RS2+
  • s2_bo
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2005
    • 6067
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

    #2
    When the belt was done on my S8 we made a tool to lock the crank. The rest was not really needed from memory.. Not 100% sure though as its a few years back..
    91 S2 coupé - RIP
    98 S8 - Luxury barge

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    • Kieron20V
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Mar 2008
      • 1505
      • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

      #3
      Hmmm, could maybe find a way to lock the crank, but the cams dont have keyways and need to be locked from the rear of the head to tension the belt correctly.
      1994 URS4 Avant RS2+

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      • brianb
        S2Forum Addict
        • Aug 2008
        • 248

        #4
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        • Gazjen
          S2Forum Addict
          • Oct 2008
          • 223
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          you could make one to hold the cams in place its just a straight bar with two pins at each end to locate in the funny shape bracket thing (I know technical eh)

          This is to allow you to crack the cam pulley bolts so that the cam pulley can rotate to to allow the tension to be taken up in the correct place without the cams moving you also have to rotate the manual idler tensioner to the belt at (form memory) 6 Nm then lock off then you can release the auto tensioner that's on my ANK engine though

          I will make one but not ready just yet unfortunately
          URQ 20vt converted
          80 quattro saloon with on going a V8 transplant

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #6
            NO - you don't use the camshaft position plates to lock it for removing the pulley. They just hold the cams in correct position while belt is off. This is same setup on V6 TDI motors - You MUST use a counterhold on the cam pulley to remove it - that is the big 3036 tool - I have one but you can fashion something if you have some ingenuity. You could easily fashion lock plates for the rear of camshafts too if you have suitable thickness metal... I can take dimensions from mine if it helps.
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            • WabTheKing
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2004
              • 2567
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              if you can do me an acurate sketch i can laser cut some out of 6mm, i need to make some for mine anyway and wouldnt cost any more to cut a couple more, just cover the postage and ill cut you both a set

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              • Gazjen
                S2Forum Addict
                • Oct 2008
                • 223
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Originally posted by S2central.net
                NO - you don't use the camshaft position plates to lock it for removing the pulley. They just hold the cams in correct position while belt is off. This is same setup on V6 TDI motors - You MUST use a counterhold on the cam pulley to remove it - that is the big 3036 tool - I have one but you can fashion something if you have some ingenuity. You could easily fashion lock plates for the rear of camshafts too if you have suitable thickness metal... I can take dimensions from mine if it helps.
                I didn't mean you used that to lock them I meant you it allows you to crack them so you can rotate the pulleys,

                That would be great if you could laser cut a few blanks I can try and take some measurements if need be is it the same tool across the V8's and/or V6's?
                URQ 20vt converted
                80 quattro saloon with on going a V8 transplant

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                • spink
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4382
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  I have the cam locking tools if you want to borrow them,dont have any of the others sadly

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                  • 4WheelDrifter
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 5773
                    • Country: Devon

                    #10
                    Just lock the crank. Then when you remove the belt release the cams gently and use a bar that works like the one below. Re-tension the cams when you fit the new belt. It's a two man job really. Managing that uber long belt is quite a mission in itself.

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                    • WabTheKing
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • May 2004
                      • 2567
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      anyone get anywhere with a drawing for the cam locking tool?

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