Coolant & Antifreeze Explained

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  • oilman
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2006
    • 996
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Coolant & Antifreeze Explained

    Coolant and antifreeze is a topic we are asked about on a regular basis, and often causes confusion; types, colours, service life etc.

    Perhaps the most frequent cause of confusion is what the difference between anti-freeze or coolant is. Basically, they’re the same product (although the term “coolant” could just be applied to plain water; see below!)

    To help clear some of the confusion up on the more technical details of antifreeze and coolants we enlisted the help of Martyn Mann – Technical Director, Millers Oils UK - who has provided the information below.

    Not all antifreeze / coolant is the same!

    Coolant can be plain water; water is a very effective coolant but would not protect against sub freezing temperatures or protect against corrosion inside the engine. The use of antifreeze protects against both problems.

    Antifreeze not only suppresses the freezing point of your engine coolant, but provides good corrosion protection and increases the boiling point during use.

    Most commercial antifreeze formulations include a glycol (to suppress the freezing point and raise the boiling point), corrosion inhibiting compounds and a coloured dye (commonly orange, green, red, or blue fluorescent) to aid in identification. A 1:1 dilution with water is usually used, resulting in a freezing point in the range of minus 37 °C to minus 42 °C, depending on the formulation.

    There are two basic types of coolant available today dependent on the corrosion inhibitors used:

    ·inorganic additive technology (IAT)
    ·organic additive technology (OAT)

    Inorganic Additive Technology

    This is the traditional coolant based on inorganic additives and is called inorganic additive technology (IAT). It is a tried and proven chemistry that provides a fast acting protective film. The additives deplete and the coolant needs to be drained and replenished every couple of years. This type can be used on all mixed metal engines with components including steel, cast iron, copper, brass, aluminium and solder without any detrimental effect.

    Organic Acid Technology

    The newer OAT coolants work differently than the older silicate based IAT coolants. Aluminium and ferrous metals form a surface-layer of corrosion in the presence of moisture, even with the little bit of moisture in the air. OAT coolants prevent this metal-oxide layer that protects the surface against this corrosion. Inherent with their design, the OAT coolants last longer than the older traditional IAT coolants. This category of antifreeze cannot be used in systems containing yellow metals.

    A couple of questions and answers.

    Why are coolants different colours?

    Coolants/antifreezes are coloured so you can visually see them; colour intensity can be an indication of over dilution. The different colours are non specific to the different types of antifreeze. The manufacturer can dye the product any colour they want. The colour is no guide to the actual type of antifreeze type and the label should be read before use.

    What is best for performance use?

    It is always best to use the engine manufacturer’s advice. If engine contains yellow metals [copper and brass as in older vehicles] then the long life products based on organic technology should not be used. As a general rule, most modern engines require the long life organic antifreezes.

    Is there any advantage to using concentrate over pre-mixed coolants?

    None other than the user may want to use the pre-mixed product due to ease of handling or cost and visa versa.

    Can concentrate and pre-mixed coolants be mixed?

    A simple answer is that you can, however do not mix IAT and OAT antifreeze together.

    So, there we go. Hopefully this information has been useful, if you have any further questions not covered here please ask and I will try to get the answer.

    With thanks to Martyn Mann and Millers Oils.

    Cheers

    Guy and the Opie Oils team.
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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    Interesting - so is this IAT vs OAT the reason why you arent supposed to mix old Audi G11 coolant (was blue) with the newer G12 coolant (red/pink) or is that about something else entirely?

    Now I see the latest is called G12+
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    • s2_bo
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2005
      • 6067
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

      #3
      Im sure the latest is called G12++.

      Just out of interest is G12++ a IAT or a OAT?
      And why do Audi specify only to use their G12 coolant, is there a reason other then making more money?
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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        Where is Audi going with that naming FFS - what is next G12+++ ?

        I think Audi like many manufacturers call up their own so that they can fish Mr.Average Bloke into the dealership for servicing or parts all the time - same as that old **** and bull with 'long life' synthetic oil that has some VW or Audi number on it to make it supposedly special.
        Paul Nugent
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        • Nuvo
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Nov 2003
          • 3825

          #5
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          • s2driveruk
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12696
            • Country: England

            #6
            I think Motul do a flavour of the G12+++++++++ and so do Febi
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            • oilman
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jan 2006
              • 996
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              The Motul Inugel Optimal is a G12+, but not a G12++.

              Apparantly mixing G12 coolants with no G12 can cause them to turn to jelly.

              G12 are OAT.

              Cheers

              Tim
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              • Skull
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                • Mar 2004
                • 3506
                • Country: Slovenia

                #8
                Is it ok to use pure antifreeze, with no water mixed in?
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                • oilman
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 996
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Yes and no. It may not cause a problem because of the heat transfer properties of the antifreeze itself, but to get the best heat transfer water is needed.
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