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  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #16
    Originally posted by Jamo
    Yes you can early AAN ran this configuration of dizzy and coilpacks, Bram was also running this on his engine with VEMS
    The breakpoint between AAN Hall senders in a Tuna Can and behind the exhaust cam cover is mid-February 1992 car built (earlier for engine build) as detailed here:

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    • rs200
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2009
      • 1398
      • Home: Croatia

      #17
      Originally posted by shone190
      Hi everybody,

      what is the best way to get 350HP from 3B engine?

      RS2 setup, or something else?

      Thank You all in advance.

      Best regards!
      javi se i rešit cemo... koliko god konja zelis..

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      • rs200
        S2Forum Extremist
        • May 2009
        • 1398
        • Home: Croatia

        #18
        Originally posted by prj
        You could probably run 500+ hp on it.
        That's beside the point.

        In the same manner I can say:
        I know plenty of people who have bent rods on 3B on stock car with chip.
        I'm the one..

        well... 3B is shitt ..

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        • Rocco
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Aug 2007
          • 6393
          • Country: Spain

          #19
          Originally posted by rs200
          I'm the one..

          well... 3B is shitt ..
          well.....my 3B can kick your car´s a s s
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          • rs200
            S2Forum Extremist
            • May 2009
            • 1398
            • Home: Croatia

            #20
            Originally posted by Rocco
            well.....my 3B can kick your car´s a s s
            are you sure ?

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            • Dan
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jun 2008
              • 1242
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #21
              Let's not turn this into a 3B vs. ABY war now
              1993 ABY Coupe | BMW R1200 GS
              A6 3.0 TDI Quattro (aka Sonic's 'ring support/cargo vehicle )

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              • rs200
                S2Forum Extremist
                • May 2009
                • 1398
                • Home: Croatia

                #22
                Originally posted by Dan
                Let's not turn this into a 3B vs. ABY war now
                hahah
                there can't be war because we all know that ABY are better , even brilliant vs 3B. :mischeif:

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #23
                  Dizzy is weak link on the 3B. I did once cook up a plan for solid state alternative to take 3B onto coilpacks without loom surgery and ECU swap. If there is sufficient interest I would seriously take it on.
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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    i think there would be simply based on how cheap 3B looms and ECUs are compared to ABY gear for 20vt engine swaps, and also as a cheaper way to upgrade 3Bs
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                    • andy10v
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5996
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #25
                      Originally posted by S2central.net
                      Dizzy is weak link on the 3B. I did once cook up a plan for solid state alternative to take 3B onto coilpacks without loom surgery and ECU swap. If there is sufficient interest I would seriously take it on.
                      Would it cost less to do than the current method?
                      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                      Sold ABY-stock

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                      • rs200
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • May 2009
                        • 1398
                        • Home: Croatia

                        #26
                        probably NOT , but the good thing is that we have BIG enthusiasts on S2 forum like S2 Central.
                        without them I would newer do 3B to AAN ECU pin swap. or 100 other think what I learn here.

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                        • 20Vcqdriver
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 829
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          So what is considered the safe max for a scat rodded 3B retaining it's distributer... 350bhp- 380bhp before problems occur..
                          Also looking at RR airbox for mine as ABY is never going to fit in a series 2, already tried, that or custom make something.
                          1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                          2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                          2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                          • shone190
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 527
                            • Country: Serbia

                            #28
                            What do You think of K26 turbo from Porsche 944 2.5 with 250KS?

                            I saw here: http://mtsonline.mt.funpic.de/turbolader.html that it's capable for 400HP. I can buy one for little money, so what do You think, is it really capable for 400HP?
                            Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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                            • porkkis
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1994
                              • Country: Finland

                              #29
                              350hp 3B = RS2 turbo, injectors, exhaust, 250kpa map, sw. Other routes are of course possible but harder and more expensive.

                              No spark hopping will happen if the right narrow tip rotor is used.

                              I have a dyno sheet with 362hp from a car with 3b air box. No problem there.

                              So what is considered the safe max for a scat rodded 3B retaining it's distributer... 350bhp- 380bhp before problems occur..
                              Somewhere around 500hp your spark energy level becomes a problem. Nowadays of course there are cures for that too. Just throw in a CDI-upgrade and the limit is somewhere much higher.

                              These (air box, dizzy..) are just the kinds of limitations that really do not exist. They become limitations and truths when they're repeated and repeated at forums for years.
                              OK of course there is a limit for each air box but now I ment using 3B in RS2 setup.

                              What do You think of K26 turbo from Porsche 944 2.5 with 250KS?
                              You can use the hot side from one of these for 400+.
                              Easier is to use just the housing and mate it to an Audi K26 as the shaft and turbine wheels are the same. Water lines are differently in Audi/Porsche center sections.
                              Last edited by porkkis; 13 May 2011, 06:30.
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                              • shone190
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 527
                                • Country: Serbia

                                #30
                                I wondered whether the K26 is appropriate for the strength of 350hp to 400hp. For cooling, I will manage that

                                What injectors do you recommend for about 350-400hp?
                                Audi URquattro 4.2l, Dodge Charger 7.3l, Golf 4 TDI 4Motion

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