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  • dich
    S2Forum Fanatic
    • Apr 2010
    • 52
    • Country: Bulgaria

    #1

    Bosch green top injectors

    I bought a kkk k27 turbo for my s2 3b.Now I search for the appropitate injectors.My decisson are the bosch green top injectors or so called Ford green injectors 440 ccm.The question is whete to buy them from.I found some at good price http://rs-power-shop.com/product_inf...370a4af86260b1 . After that i found them at even better price http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html .Are all injectors chinese ones? Are there any originals?Do the chinese ones work well.I will be glad to hear you suggestions.
  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    i would avoid any chinese replica parts - have heard lots of bad stories about poor performance from such injectors. AFAIK they are NLA from Bosch, but you will find some reputable injector specialists in US and UK selling refurbished originals.

    The other questionable activity is loading up all the torque from a K26/27 into a 3B and hoping/praying that spark hop inside the distributor does not destroy your engine.... A little extra money for coil packs, ECU and some wiring tweaks gets you away from that situation.
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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #3
      Second link is 100% chinese, they don't work, car won't even idle, never mind driving.
      First link don't know, might be genuine, might be not.

      Best to buy Volvo injectors, 0280155968, they are also 440cc (but different latency), need different mapping.
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      • dich
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • Apr 2010
        • 52
        • Country: Bulgaria

        #4
        So I am a little confused.Where I should buy them from?Is this good
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-BOS...Q5fCarQ5fParts . Send me a PM not to make advertisements of some sites wiht correct seller.Thank you for the fast replys.

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #5
          Yea, five-o is good.
          You still will need someone to map your car for the injectors though.

          And if your turbo is a full K27, not K26/K27, then those injectors will be too small.
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          • dich
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            • Apr 2010
            • 52
            • Country: Bulgaria

            #6
            This is the turbo http://cgi.ebay.de/kkk-turbolader-K2...item27bc2d7649. I think it's k27/27.And 440 cc injectors on 3 bar will be enough for 400 crank horse power.Am I right?

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            • prj
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2010
              • 6308
              • Country: Estonia

              #7
              At 3 bar? No way.
              At 4 bar they will be enough for 400-430 hp.

              But to get that amount of power out of it you need it properly mapped.
              Considering your last post here:


              I don't see that happening
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              • dich
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Apr 2010
                • 52
                • Country: Bulgaria

                #8
                The problem with the mapping was solved.The fuel pump was not working corretly and fuel pressure was dropping.At the moment the car is boostign normally with wastegate spring set to stock.Is this good for 3 bar fuel pressure http://rs-power-shop.com/product_inf...370a4af86260b1 .

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  Fuel pump was not working correctly and pressure was dropping, yet you had 10.5 AFR?
                  Right

                  About those injectors - no idea, never used them.
                  If they are not chinese replicas, they will probably work.
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                  • dich
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 52
                    • Country: Bulgaria

                    #10
                    Originally posted by prj
                    Fuel pump was not working correctly and pressure was dropping, yet you had 10.5 AFR?
                    Right
                    Yes there is no logic for rich mixture in high revs and dropping fuel pressure.They also told me that there was a difference between the map and the new 250 kpa map sensor.After that the car was running normally.

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      You should listen less to what people tell you, when you can see it defies logic.

                      Fit a FPR from 7A engine and use 440cc Volvo's.
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                      • dich
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 52
                        • Country: Bulgaria

                        #12
                        Thanks for the advices.I will get the volvo injectors.

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                        • Audi Parts Guru
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 1317
                          • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by S2central.net
                          i would avoid any chinese replica parts - have heard lots of bad stories about poor performance from such injectors. AFAIK they are NLA from Bosch, but you will find some reputable injector specialists in US and UK selling refurbished originals.
                          Agreed, stay away from Chinese stuff

                          Find some used ones on ebay and then get them professionally cleaned/serviced
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                          • Ross
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 3399
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            USRT sell the genuine article Bosch 440cc injectors, $300 a set and I can't remember what that was shipped. I think it worked out about £220 when i almost bought a set, assuming you don't get hit for import duty.
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