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  • europeanme
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Oct 2005
    • 3817
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    850cc - Too big

    finally ordering my injectors and just for my piece of mind my dilemma...

    850cc - too big
    550 - too small
    750 - just right

    or just go out for 1000 to future proof any more upgrades....
  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #2
    i think you should go with the 750 ones!

    what's the setup?

    PS: i think the problem is you are buing too big brakes.

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    • Rocco
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Aug 2007
      • 6393
      • Country: Spain

      #3
      how many Hp are you thinking to use my mad friend?

      think that if you use one day E85 or similar fuels you would need more headroom injectors
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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #4
        Does not matter with EV14's.
        Even 1000cc's idle just fine. No such thing as "too big" until you get way over 1000cc.
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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          why are 550cc to small? remember injectors are rated at 3 bar normally and with the S2 aby running at 4 bar so a 550cc injector should flow around 635cc

          You want the smallest injectors possible to reach your bhp limit, makes idle control easier for a start

          To some mappers it makes no odds, there is a famous incident with Ross's car and a certain mapper who couldn't map his car because 630cc injectors were too big :corey:

          If you want to future proof just use 750cc, you'll have a hell of time maxxing them out unless we get e85 uk wide which will be never as all petrol courts are oil company owned here

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          • Rocco
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Aug 2007
            • 6393
            • Country: Spain

            #6
            550cc injectors with 4bar FPR = 550Hp possible with ron 98 fuel

            if they are too small .... you will build a killer car¡¡'
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • caterpillar
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jun 2004
              • 2480

              #7
              will the org motronic ecu take them or do you have aftermarked ecu???
              max 80% duty at the injectors... so 1000ccm /96lbs will be nice...

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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #8
                Tested motronic fine upto 750cc, I don't think 1000cc will be a problem.
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                • europeanme
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3817
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rocco
                  you will build a killer car¡¡'
                  slightly off topic, tonight it had it's first kill......s2 1 peasant 0 not proud as the little thing could have done some damage...and we will tell tomorrow morning....
                  stupid bird straight under my back wheel....and thats right under the exhaust!!!....it'll teach me to not go around on WOT!...

                  back on topic...
                  it would seem that my idea of 750's is a popular choice...

                  @Caterpillar, hopefully motronic...

                  @Vas, you could be right....i love big brake set ups...t'is a shame i couldn't deal with having 19"'s on the car else it would have been Rocco's...and the set up is still changing as i go....

                  @Jamo, 550's are at the bottom of the scale so I assumed that bigger is better (up to a point at least)

                  thanks for your input guys...any more thoughts, as i won't be ordering these til next week, are welcome......

                  cheers
                  Mike

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    If they are EV14's as someone said above up to 1000 cc they more or less react the same, I have 750cc and I doubt you'll be hitting my power levels

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                    • europeanme
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3817
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      If they are EV14's as someone said above up to 1000 cc they more or less react the same, I have 750cc and I doubt you'll be hitting my power levels
                      they are EV14's.....and do i detect a challenge their young whipper snapper...

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by europeanme
                        they are EV14's.....and do i detect a challenge their young whipper snapper...
                        Bring it

                        I'm waiting for my new turbo I hope it's not coming from a slow boat in china

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                        • europeanme
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3817
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jamo
                          Bring it

                          I'm waiting for my new turbo I hope it's not coming from a slow boat in china
                          i've got my new one.....

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            spec? I have a suspicion it was for sale on the forum earlier in the year

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                            • A80Avant
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 10873
                              • Country: Greece

                              #15
                              what did you both get then?

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