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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #1

    Engine mis-fire

    Last week I was driving along a duel carriage way, 60mph,light throttle when the car started missing and losing power, like it was running out of fuel. The AFR gauge was full lean too. I limped off at the next exit and it seemed to clear, only to come back a few mins later. I pulled over and switched the engine off and restarted it, this seemed to clear the problem and it ran fine.

    Yesterday the problem returned but this time it got worse and I couldn’t clear it, it was running so rough at low revs it was stalling. The strange thing is, it’s only on very light throttle openings, if put my foot down it clears, the AFR’s go back to normal and it pulls strongly.

    I’m getting 525 and 537 error codes which are both lamda related, not sure if this is the cause or effect?

    Things I have tried tonight:-
    Checked resistance on TPS which was normal, got a nice smooth change of resistance as it was opened and closed.
    Cleaned ISV valve
    Cleaned MAF and MAF plug
    Checked and cleaned plugs on Lamda
    Ran output tests with VAG-COM, all seemed normal
    Took it for a test drive and it ran fine for about 10mins then same symptoms returned Any ideas what to check next?

    I’m thinking that either the lamda is shot or maybe a problem with the fuel pump, but that does not explain how it runs normally with more throttle.
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    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer
  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #2
    its likely lamda Andy, as on part throttle, lamda is working and on full throttle it isnt.

    i have an old narro band lamda, which was working when i took it off, if you want i can send it to you. I dont need it.
    Or if you come on saturday you can pick it up!

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    • AndyP
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Feb 2004
      • 6049
      • Country: England

      #3
      Thanks, that would be useful for testing, I'll pick it up on Saturday if that's OK?

      It's not just full throttle that it runs OK, it's anything past 1/4 throttle
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      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #4
        That usually dependant on the map. Some maps may be going off lambda and only use maf after certain throttle change.

        I'll bring it with me. We are making a pallet for Greece anyway so ill probably have most parts there to send back home

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        • WabTheKing
          S2Forum Fiend
          • May 2004
          • 2567
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Have you done a fuel pressure check? Might be presure reg or fuel pump?

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #6
            Sounds like dead lambda.
            Try unplugging the lambda connectors, both the 1 pin one and the heater and seeing if it gets any better.

            If it does, it is definitely the lambda. However, if it doesn't, your problem is elsewhere.
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            • europeanme
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Oct 2005
              • 3817
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I'll bring my 'standby' lamda on saturday...just in case...

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              • A80Avant
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #8
                Where will you bring it? Are you also coming at Brian's?

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  I've had offers of 4 lambda's now, so hopefully it will back running again for Saturday
                  sigpic
                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #10
                    yeah but mine is bigger.. i meant better! hahaha

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                    • europeanme
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3817
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by A80Avant
                      Where will you bring it? Are you also coming at Brian's?

                      sent using Android
                      That is the plan....i've got to drop Andy's parts off and Bri asked me up to torment you with 6 pots...

                      oh and make tea...

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                      • A80Avant
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 10873
                        • Country: Greece

                        #12
                        a wonderful!
                        we will have a blast...

                        wish i had those 6 pots to fit as well...

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                        • AndyP
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6049
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          I replaced the lambda tonight and it seems to be OK now. I'll take it to work tomorrw and give it a good run just to check.
                          sigpic
                          1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                          1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                          1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                          • europeanme
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3817
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by A80Avant
                            wish i had those 6 pots to fit as well...
                            me to...

                            any good Andy...are you still going tomorrow?

                            Mike

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                            • AndyP
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Yes, not stopping too long though, still have loads to do before I jet off to the sun at the crack of sparrows fart on sunday
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                              1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                              1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                              1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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