IAT (G42) Wiring Problem

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  • martinjs
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    • Jul 2003
    • 3205
    • Country: England

    #16
    I did that before i took it for a spin earlier. I'll give it a couple of days to adapt.

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    • twoqu
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      • Sep 2003
      • 3103

      #17
      Looks like its going to be hot for the next couple of days! Not ideal for low intake temps/boost levels!
      Still on the plus side it should make it easier to tell if the after run system now functions.

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      • martinjs
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3205
        • Country: England

        #18
        I bridged the connectors on the water manifold and it all runs fine. It's never come on on its own all the time i have owned it, of course the temp switch could be faulty. I bet of all the cars on this forum there are more with a non running after-run system.

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        • UrS4boy
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          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #19
          Originally posted by twoqu
          Might be worth yanking the ecu fuse in case it has adapted somehow to using the after run pump as an IAT sensor!
          I would laugh, but it might be true!
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          • Carfreak
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            • Apr 2012
            • 225
            • Country: Sweden

            #20
            But i u swap these connectors - won´t the ecu throw a code ? And the IAT - isn´t that one marked with a brown connector ?

            I will check this on my car tomorrow

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            • prj
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              • Mar 2010
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              #21
              Originally posted by twoqu
              Might be worth yanking the ecu fuse in case it has adapted somehow to using the after run pump as an IAT sensor!
              No...
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              • rs200
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                • May 2009
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                #22
                hy
                I have exactly same problem with one audi s6 (AAN) and we could't find where is problem for a one year. we try everithing.
                did somebody know the difference between brown and black IAT sensor? why did they change it?
                have this 2 sensors same caracteristic?
                did you solve the problem?

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                • martinjs
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3205
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  Yes it soved the problem.
                  Some IAT sensors are black so that throws the colour coding idea straight the window.

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                  • UrS4boy
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11859
                    • Country: Canada

                    #24
                    Originally posted by martinjs
                    Yes it soved the problem. Some IAT sensors are black so that throws the colour coding idea straight the window.
                    I guess the key point is as I suggested in Post 7 of this thread, i.e. pay attention to the wire colours:

                    "1. The G42 intake air temp sensor (IAT) is a two pin. On an AAN, the wire colours are Brown/Blue from the T55/44 (ECU pin 44) and a Green/Blk wire that goes to ground (somewhere).

                    2. The N71 Idle speed control valve (ISV) is a two pin. It has a white/yellow wire from T55/4 (to control the ISV location) and a red power wire that comes through the S75 fuse.

                    3. The after-run pump. It has three wires but a 2 pin connector. A white/blk and a blk/white wire (presumably two 12V relayed power sources) are siamesed into one pin and a third wire, brown/black (presumably a ground) in the second pin.

                    On an AAN and I would guess on an ABY, it might be possible to swap the 2 pin connector on the ISV and the IAT. They are the same size and the wire lengths make it possible to make this minor, but important, mistake. It also looks potentially possible to swap the after-run pump into the wrong position in an AAN but I doubt that it is physically possible in an ABY situation."
                    Last edited by UrS4boy; 13 May 2013, 21:11.
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                    • martinjs
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3205
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      Yes on an ABY the IAT plug wont reach to the after-run pump, but on the AAN the wiring to both sensors are a very similar length.

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                      • UrS4boy
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #26
                        I have updated my G42 Intake Air Temp sensor info post to add a note about checking the wire colours to prevent mis-connecting the IAT, ISV and/or after-run pump connectors.

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                        • UrS4boy
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                          • Feb 2006
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by rs200
                          hy. I have exactly same problem with one audi s6 (AAN) and we could't find where is problem for a one year. we try everything.
                          I am not sure why there would be an issue. Even if they changed the colour of the IAT itself from brown to black, the harness connector for the IAT is brown (first photo below) and the after-run pump is black (second photo, under first)

                          Brown 2 pin harness connector connected to, as it happens, a brown IAT:



                          After-run pump connector - black in the lower middle, unlabeled, in this photo:

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                          • rs200
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                            • May 2009
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                            #28
                            tnx guys for big explanation , but I check everithing for 5 times and 100% sure that conector of IAT is at right place.
                            at stock engine loom was black IAT (welded) and I change it with brown, which can be removed.
                            can that cause problem ? are there any difference betwen them ?

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                            • UrS4boy
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                              • Feb 2006
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rs200
                              ....at stock engine loom was black IAT (welded) and I change it with brown, which can be removed. can that cause problem ? are there any difference betwen them ?
                              Sorry I forgot that some (all?) 3Bs had IATs soldered to the harness. I don't think there is an issue using an AAN, ABY or ADU IAT on a 3B. I know there is an issue with the 1.8t IATs - their resistance works in the opposite way.
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                              • Angus Young
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                                • Aug 2012
                                • 22
                                • Country: Croatia

                                #30
                                Can anybody please write step by step what we need 2 do here! The problem is we can't quite understand everything u write so we are stil lost here! Im having this problem 2 years now and Im desperate, I was even thinking of selling my car cause I cant take it anymore... and its basicly a ******** error.. so is there anny difference between using black and brown sensors? I appriciate your help, many thanks... please be easy on words, keep it simple our englis aint that good

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