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  • #16
    Cam sprocket is different on a 3B than AAN/ABY. ADU gear is exclusive to ADU engine.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by saltinot View Post
      Cam sprocket is different on a 3B than AAN/ABY. ADU gear is exclusive to ADU engine.
      Yep. Need to add that info. Thanks Tom.

      3B, RR (and NM and 7A) = 034109111
      AAN and ABY = 034109105
      ADU = 034109105B
      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • #18
        I am told that originally the 3B rods were something like 80 grams heavier than the ADU rod. Here is a photo that supposedly has a 3B rod on the left and an AAN rod on the right. Anybody with old PNs for these?

        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • #19
          Originally posted by UrS4boy View Post
          I am told that originally the 3B rods were something like 80 grams heavier than the ADU rod. Here is a photo that supposedly has a 3B rod on the left and an AAN rod on the right. Anybody with old PNs for these?

          The rod on the left is definately a 3B rod. Matches the one i have left from my engine before it was slightly deformed

          rod 002.jpg
          91 Modded 3B
          14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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          • #20
            Originally posted by UrS4boy View Post
            Won't you be surprised! (still a work in progress)

            yes I am a bit I thought the ABY / ADU had slightly higher compression

            The ABY / ADU and later AAN head is different to the 3B (think hall sender boss )
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • #21
              Compression difference was due to the paper gasket but the metal gasket is now standard so really isn't a factor anymore

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Error404 View Post
                yes I am a bit I thought the ABY / ADU had slightly higher compression The ABY / ADU and later AAN head is different to the 3B (think hall sender boss )
                You are right about the head. That whole exercise is useless because the PNs that I picked up are what is available in the system NOW, not back in the day. NOW an AAN head works on a 3B or an RR (or ABY or ADU). But back in the day, the 3B head did not work as a later AAN head because, as you said, the cam position boss would be missing (there are solutions to fix that). Oh well, it only took an hour to do.
                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by UrS4boy View Post
                  Yep. Need to add that info. Thanks Tom. 3B, RR (and NM and 7A) = 034109111 , AAN and ABY = 034109105, ADU = 034109105B
                  Not that it matters but to be more complete:

                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • #24
                    So a 3b head wouldn't be a straight swap into an ABY then?

                    What are the solutions for the cam position boss?

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                    • #25
                      Did you want to mention the block and timing belt tensioner differences?


                      Originally posted by Colesy View Post
                      So a 3b head wouldn't be a straight swap into an ABY then?

                      What are the solutions for the cam position boss?

                      Make your own?
                      SS

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter View Post
                        Did you want to mention the block and timing belt tensioner differences?


                        Make your own?
                        Ahh I see, that looks a bit beyond my skill set!

                        Is this something MRC might be able to hep with or can anyone recommend someone else who's done this before?

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                        • #27
                          Some 3B 200 20vt and S2 Coupe info

                          3B and AAN similarities and differences
                          3B Engine Cut-away:

                          3B Engine With Labels:

                          3B in 200 20VT Ghosted:

                          S2 Coupe ghosted:

                          3B distributor:

                          Distributor supercedence:

                          3B and ABT turbo to intake hoses:

                          3B ECU pin-out:

                          3B ECU schematic:

                          3B 200 20vt diagnostic plugs:

                          3B PCV system:

                          3B WGFV:

                          3B and ABY Oil Pressure switches:

                          3B Fuel Pressure Regulator:

                          3B MFTS info:

                          3B and AAN timing belts:

                          3B Ignition Coil Info:

                          3B radiator location:

                          3B coupe exhaust:
                          Last edited by UrS4boy; 23 April 2014, 16:29.
                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • #28
                            downpipe and cats are 3b specific if not already captured
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                            1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                            • #29
                              OE 3B, AAN, ABY and ADU Exhaust Components: a consolidation of info.

                              Originally posted by s2driveruk View Post
                              downpipe and cats are 3b specific if not already captured
                              I did say *Some*, i.e. not all.

                              Anyway, I went to my consolidated exhaust post and posted a 3B exhaust component diagram above.

                              OE 3B, AAN, ABY and ADU Exhaust Components: a consolidation of info:
                              http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/196904.phtml
                              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                              • #30
                                are you looking at the ancillaries too like alternator, AC compressor, etc
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                                1992 3b S2 Coupe

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