Poor warm idle stalling

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  • SteveH
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 4460
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Poor warm idle stalling

    I have a problem with my car at warm idle with it dropping revs really low and stalling. It's fine from cold and it only happens when the engine has started to warm up. I've also got a problem with the water temp feed to the clocks from the MFTS, so I'm wondering if the water temp signal has a direct interaction with the idle control? I think I have a dodgy sensor or the cabling needs attention.

    Anyone have any ideas what to look for or test?

    Cheers,
    Steve
    91 Modded 3B
    14 A6 Avant Black Edition
  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #2
    Bad MAF could also cause dodgy idling.
    1996 S2 ABY Silver

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    • AndyP
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Feb 2004
      • 6049
      • Country: England

      #3
      The MFTS does not feed the ECU, the sensor on the back of the head does that. I take it you've tried cleaning the ISV?
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      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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      • SteveH
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2003
        • 4460
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Originally posted by AndyP
        The MFTS does not feed the ECU, the sensor on the back of the head does that. I take it you've tried cleaning the ISV?
        Thanks Andy.....so the lack of temp readout on the guage is just down to the MFTS or it's cabling. The ISV has been cleaned and it works fine when the car is started from cold. It's like the ISV isn't getting the right signal when the coolant is hot. The revs dip really low and the car stalls when stopping at junctions. If it's left running it idles fine. It must be something to do with the throttle closing and the ISV circuit not kicking in correctly. I can hear the TPS click when the throttle closes and I have tested the TPS signals and they are all fine.
        91 Modded 3B
        14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Click on the MAF, MFTS, ISV and Idle Switch labels in this diagram to help figure out your idling issue:

          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #6
            Vacuum leak. This is exactly how it will behave if you have one.

            Pressure test it, then everything else
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            • SteveH
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 4460
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Cheers guys
              91 Modded 3B
              14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                3B ecu uses the MFTS. Are you 3B or converted to ABY?
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • SteveH
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4460
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by andy10v
                  3B ecu uses the MFTS. Are you 3B or converted to ABY?
                  Still 3B at the moment, however the paln was to convert next week. I think I'll do the pin swap and see how she runs afterwards.

                  Thanks
                  91 Modded 3B
                  14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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