Timing belt tools

[audinut]

Ive just enquired about the timing tools vag3036,3256

I was wondering if anyone wanted to go halfs on em ? or maybe get everyone involved in a forum buy ?

or alternativey if any one has them and fancies lending them out please pm me

apologies if this has been done already

[Monkeymagic]

I guess one is crank counter hold tool what's the other mate. Id be interested in a purchase. I love buying tools. I think it makes me weird but everyone has a vice.

[simon20vq]

If its the crank locking tool I think it was Andy10v who made one up out of 2" box section. I made one and if you have a welder and an angle grinder its simple

[audinut]

1 is the crank locking tool the other is the camshaft locking tool

[terrybullwon]

This can be done with out fancy Audi tools.

Either as mentioned above with a home made bar. Or remove the starter and lock the flywheel

[Fat Audi 80]

I guess one is crank counter hold tool what's the other mate. Id be interested in a purchase. I love buying tools. I think it makes me weird but everyone has a "vice".

I see what you did there!

[driftin jo]

I would not recommend locking the flywheel, a friend of mine did that and snapped two teeth of the ring gear !
Last time I removed the front pulley bolt it took over well over 600 ft/lbs to free it.
Me weighing 200 lbs with a 3 foot bar bouncing on it !
It is also going to put undue stress on the crank, applying a twisting force of 600+ ft/lbs to the front of the crank is not good for it.
I know these cranks are strong but even if an S2 engine tuned is making 600 ft/lbs of torque it is not making this from one singular force per revolution, the force from any given journal would only be 240 ft/lbs.

[audinut]

so would anyone be interested , i think both tool are £120 - aby specific though

[twoqu]

Before you waste any money read this:

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26409

I don't believe there is a specific ABY tool.

[andy10v]

I don't believe there is a specific ABY tool.

Vag 3256 is the ABY crank lock tool
Vag 2084 is the 3B crank lock tool

Pictures/info on mikes site

http://www.s2-audi.co.uk/tech_articles/useful_tools.htm

Does anybody bother using the cam locking tool?

And yeah notched 2" box is an easy DIY tool, (or just a pipe wrench ala Will)

[audinut]

ah well there be a little place for it in me tool box

[Mikes2]

I've got the 3036.

You don't need it for doing a timing belt. It's really only required if you plan to remove the cam pulley.

[audinut]

cool just one to get then thanks for the info

[twoqu]

Vag 3256 is the ABY crank lock tool
Vag 2084 is the 3B crank lock tool

Pictures/info on mikes site

http://www.s2-audi.co.uk/tech_articles/useful_tools.htm

Does anybody bother using the cam locking tool?

And yeah notched 2" box is an easy DIY tool, (or just a pipe wrench ala Will)

Despite what the factory documentation says the Vag 3256 does not work on the ABY!

Basically the Vag 2084 does the 3B and others including 10V and the Vag 3256 does the AAN and the 2.5 TDi.

Forum members have modified both the the 2084 and the 3256 to work with the ABY which sort of proves what I said before. If the 3256 was the official tool then why doesn't it fit! At first members thought it was only A/C models were the problem but I believe the ABY pulley is the same whether you have A/C or not.
That is why must people have devised alternate ways to lock the crank.

[audinut]

what i dont get , obviously i have no car infront of me , is what the box section homemade tool actually locks?