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  • karlblues2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jul 2004
    • 402
    • Home: England Current: Australia

    #1

    7A exhaust Cam

    OK. Stupid question time....
    What is the 7A exhaust cam, why is it better than the ABY one, and how easy is it to fit? Also is it an essential upgrade for my ABY if replacing the turbo to an RS2 stage 3, RS2 injectors and RS2 e/m?
    Cheers guys
    Karl
    Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
    Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
    Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
    Triumph 675 Street Triple R
  • martinjs
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Jul 2003
    • 3205
    • Country: England

    #2
    It has higher lift than the stock s2 cam, so opens the valve for longer, i think its pretty much the same as the RS2 ex cam, but a lot cheaper,
    It helps with top end power, i have one fitted, along with RS2 bits, but fitted everything at the same time so didnt notice what differenct a cam alone will make.
    You can fit the inlet cam from the 7a also.

    martin

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    • karlblues2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jul 2004
      • 402
      • Home: England Current: Australia

      #3
      Originally posted by martinjs
      It has higher lift than the stock s2 cam, so opens the valve for longer, i think its pretty much the same as the RS2 ex cam, but a lot cheaper,
      It helps with top end power, i have one fitted, along with RS2 bits, but fitted everything at the same time so didnt notice what differenct a cam alone will make.
      You can fit the inlet cam from the 7a also.

      martin
      Thanks for the reply Martin....Anyone know how much they cost????
      Can we get them through VAGPARTS??
      Cheers
      Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
      Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
      Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
      Triumph 675 Street Triple R

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      • 4WheelDrifter
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Oct 2004
        • 5773
        • Country: Devon

        #4
        7A valve timing at 0.1mm lift.

        Exhaust opens 42° BBDC
        Exhaust closes 3° BTDC
        Inlet opens 6° BTDC
        Inlet closes 38° ABDC

        HTH
        SS

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Do we have the spec of the RS2 cam to compare?

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          • 4WheelDrifter
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Oct 2004
            • 5773
            • Country: Devon

            #6
            RS2 valve timing at 0.1mm lift.

            Exhaust opens 24° BBDC
            Exhaust closes 1° ATDC
            Inlet opens 13° BTDC
            Inlet closes 35° ABDC

            I think that's right.
            SS

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            • Jay
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jul 2004
              • 599

              #7
              Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
              RS2 valve timing at 0.1mm lift.

              Exhaust opens 24° BBDC
              Exhaust closes 1° ATDC
              Inlet opens 13° BTDC
              Inlet closes 35° ABDC

              I think that's right.

              Compare the to over laps between the cams- not good on a turbo car you loose loads of torque, unless you are going for a all out comp car you will destory the driveabilty and fuel econ.

              Jay

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              • 4WheelDrifter
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Oct 2004
                • 5773
                • Country: Devon

                #8
                I don't think there is any overlap on any of these cams.
                Is that right?
                SS

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                • Jay
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 599

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                  I don't think there is any overlap on any of these cams.
                  Is that right?
                  There is always overlap on all engines, single or twin cam, its when both valve are open at the same time between the exhaust stroke and the inlet stoke.

                  Also NA cams have to much duration this to to promote scavenging of the cyl and is more important on NA than turbos.

                  Jay

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                  • 4WheelDrifter
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 5773
                    • Country: Devon

                    #10
                    Don't worry. I had a moment then.
                    Got my ATDC mixed with my BTDC!
                    D!ckhead!
                    SS

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                    • Greg_S
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 12430
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      been thru this one before in some dtail i think and it was worked out there wasnt overlap with them
                      Greg

                      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                      • karlblues2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 402
                        • Home: England Current: Australia

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
                        Don't worry. I had a moment then.
                        Got my ATDC mixed with my BTDC!
                        D!ckhead!
                        OK! So for Mr Thicky here, can you repeat the correct ones please
                        Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
                        Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
                        Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
                        Triumph 675 Street Triple R

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                        • 4WheelDrifter
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 5773
                          • Country: Devon

                          #13
                          Sorry. I was Mr Thicky. AFAIK the timing figures are ok. I just read them wrong thinking about overlap.
                          Should get some glasses really!
                          SS

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                          • Greg_S
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 12430
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14




                            some reading for you

                            Greg
                            Greg

                            S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                            '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                            • 4WheelDrifter
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 5773
                              • Country: Devon

                              #15
                              Actually, the figures i have for the 3B cams show the exhaust closes at 9° BTDC and the inlet opens at 3° BTDC. Can anyone confirm this? 6° with both sets of valves shut. That would be a small compression just before the intake stroke.
                              SS

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