Anybody done a Tial V-band WG on a Wagner RS2 EVO EM?

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  • UrS4boy
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    • Feb 2006
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    #1

    Anybody done a Tial V-band WG on a Wagner RS2 EVO EM?

    It would require a flange to bolt to the Wagner EM, then a short(ish) spool piece (pipe) and then a V-band flange. Any BTDT's with a photo somewhere? Project Pad? MotorGeek?
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant
  • k.alle
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    • Feb 2008
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    • Country: Sweden

    #2
    Something like this?
    Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
    http://www.garaget.org/?car=52877

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    • Sonic
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      • Jul 2006
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      #3
      Will @ VRS made and fitted this one for me -

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      • k.alle
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        • Feb 2008
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        #4
        Sonic, how happy are you with the Tial unit?
        I've ordered one so a bit curious.
        Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
        http://www.garaget.org/?car=52877

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        • Sonic
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          #5
          Very - no complaints

          Setting it up with the right springs is a bit tricky - you have to work out what pressure you want and mix the springs to get the correct resistance... then try and put them in and bolt down the cap, which is easier said than done!

          Mine is also plumbed in with the coolant as well.
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          • UrS4boy
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            • Feb 2006
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            #6
            k.alle and Sonic: Thanks very much. I will pass the excellent info along. This is for a local fellow with a damaged UrS6 who is going to swap the supposedly built AAN into his 7A CQ. The UrS6 had a hack-job bespoke tubular header that was crap and had a V-band flange welded to the header. He is tossing the header on the scrap heap and using a Wagner RS2 EVO EM but he wants to keep the Tial WG (the turbo is a GT 3071).

            I've pointed him to your info. Thanks.
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • fridtjov-audirs2
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              • Jun 2005
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              #7
              Ia also make one adapter from wagner, not std down pipe, and not the best picture`s

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              • k.alle
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                • Feb 2008
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                #8
                Originally posted by Sonic
                Very - no complaints

                Setting it up with the right springs is a bit tricky - you have to work out what pressure you want and mix the springs to get the correct resistance... then try and put them in and bolt down the cap, which is easier said than done!

                Mine is also plumbed in with the coolant as well.
                Nice to hear
                So spring resistance on paper vs reality differs?
                I'd like 0.8 bar.

                I won't be going with the coolant, for now.

                Originally posted by UrS4boy
                k.alle and Sonic: Thanks very much. I will pass the excellent info along. This is for a local fellow with a damaged UrS6 who is going to swap the supposedly built AAN into his 7A CQ. The UrS6 had a hack-job bespoke tubular header that was crap and had a V-band flange welded to the header. He is tossing the header on the scrap heap and using a Wagner RS2 EVO EM but he wants to keep the Tial WG (the turbo is a GT 3071).

                I've pointed him to your info. Thanks.
                No problem, wish him luck.
                Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
                http://www.garaget.org/?car=52877

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                • Sonic
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by k.alle
                  Nice to hear
                  So spring resistance on paper vs reality differs?
                  I'd like 0.8 bar.
                  No you'll just gain a new appreciation for how much pressure 0.8bar is

                  The cap that holds the springs is small compared to the stock S2 one, so you have to press and hold the springs all the way down to get the cap on, and then screw the fiddly nuts on.

                  You might be best taking off the nipple on the top and holding it down with a clamp.
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                  • k.alle
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                    • Feb 2008
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sonic
                    No you'll just gain a new appreciation for how much pressure 0.8bar is

                    The cap that holds the springs is small compared to the stock S2 one, so you have to press and hold the springs all the way down to get the cap on, and then screw the fiddly nuts on.

                    You might be best taking off the nipple on the top and holding it down with a clamp.
                    I see

                    Is the marking of the springs accurate in your experience ?
                    Lets say I combine 2 or use one stated as 0.8 bar, will it show as 0.8 bar on my boost gauge?
                    I'd like to fiddle with it as little as possible
                    Audi S2 -1994 | 480 Hp 650 Nm | FlexFuel | MaxxECU | 3" Stainless | Porsche GT3 Front Brakes
                    http://www.garaget.org/?car=52877

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                    • Sonic
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by k.alle
                      I see

                      Is the marking of the springs accurate in your experience ?
                      Lets say I combine 2 or use one stated as 0.8 bar, will it show as 0.8 bar on my boost gauge?
                      I'd like to fiddle with it as little as possible
                      I've not tested it with any accuracy but it seems so, yes.
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                      • Thuppu
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                        • Sep 2010
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                        #12
                        Quite easy to diy.




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                        • micky
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                          • Nov 2012
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                          #13
                          i have brought a tial and hopefully mount it on a wagner evo manifold .but the hole on the wagner is small compaired to the tial ? did you open up your hole on the manifold at all ?

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                          • europeanme
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                            • Oct 2005
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                            #14
                            heres mine Dave....

                            not the prettiest but it does the job....
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                            • Mcstiff
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                              • Oct 2004
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sonic
                              No you'll just gain a new appreciation for how much pressure 0.8bar is

                              The cap that holds the springs is small compared to the stock S2 one, so you have to press and hold the springs all the way down to get the cap on, and then screw the fiddly nuts on.

                              You might be best taking off the nipple on the top and holding it down with a clamp.
                              You could get two really long bolts to get things started...
                              1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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